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Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]
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Re: Class E Airspace Question
      06/15/17 02:00 PM

Andy -- I had a similar experience years ago, probably in the early '90s....coming from Eastern LI to HPN VFR, the wx was worsening and I was down to 1,000' or so over the Sound (which I didn't like much) in lowering vis, probably 3-5 mi). I asked for a SVFR into BDR, but was told BDR was reporting VFR so no SVFR.

Anyway, to your point.....155(c) prohibits operating beneath the ceiling under VFR within the lateral boundaries of controlled airspace designated to the surface for an airport when the ceiling is less than 1,000 feet. So, without SVFR, unless you can maintain VFR under all of the .155 conditions (including the (c) language about not operating under a ceiling of less than 1,000', you can't operate in the "D" in your example. Of course you almost certainly can avoid flying below a 1,000' ceiling if you bob and weave a bit.

I'm reading the 1,000' ceiling requirement in (c) as being as reported at the surface area airport....especially since there isn't language in (c) parallel to that in (d) relating to visibility (i.e., allowing for flight visibility to suffice if there is no reported ground visibility).

This question is particularly interesting in Denny's example, as the Class E extends up to and including 17,999' MSL. In the Class D situations, at least there's a top around 2,500' AGL...

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* Class E Airspace Question Denny Cunningham 06/15/17 03:24 AM
. * * Re: Class E Airspace Question Denny Cunningham   06/26/17 02:48 AM
. * * Re: Class E Airspace Question Richard Palm (PAO)   06/28/17 01:46 PM
. * * Re: Sectional Chart Tom Charlton   06/27/17 11:05 AM
. * * Re: Sectional Chart Denny Cunningham   06/27/17 03:38 PM
. * * Re: Sectional Chart Russell Holton   06/27/17 05:47 PM
. * * Re: Sectional Chart Andy Alson (HPN/NY)   06/27/17 12:19 PM
. * * Re: Sectional Chart Denny Cunningham   06/27/17 03:43 PM
. * * Re: Sectional Chart Kcid LlirreM   06/27/17 12:40 PM
. * * Re: Class E Airspace Question Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]   06/26/17 10:00 AM
. * * Re: Class E Airspace Question Denny Cunningham   06/26/17 02:38 PM
. * * Re: Class E Airspace Question Scott Dunham (RDU)   06/26/17 07:29 AM
. * * Re: Class E Airspace Question Denny Cunningham   06/26/17 02:19 PM
. * * Class E Airspace Question Ray Tackett   06/26/17 03:21 PM
. * * Re: Class E Airspace Question Denny Cunningham   06/26/17 04:33 PM
. * * Re: Class E Airspace Question Scott Dunham (RDU)   06/27/17 01:18 PM
. * * Re: Class E Airspace Question Denny Cunningham   06/27/17 03:47 PM
. * * Re: Class E Airspace Question Andy Alson (HPN/NY)   06/27/17 01:48 PM
. * * Re: Class E Airspace Question Scott Dunham (RDU)   06/27/17 04:56 PM
. * * Re: Class E Airspace Question Scott Dunham (RDU)   06/26/17 02:41 PM
. * * Re: Class E Airspace Question Andy Alson (HPN/NY)   06/26/17 12:18 PM
. * * Re: Class E Airspace Question Andy Alson (HPN/NY)   06/26/17 12:36 PM
. * * Re: Class E Airspace Question Denny Cunningham   06/26/17 02:34 PM
. * * Re: Class E Airspace Question Russell Holton   06/15/17 02:48 PM
. * * Re: Class E Airspace Question Denny Cunningham   06/15/17 04:00 PM
. * * Re: Class E Airspace Question Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]   06/15/17 07:11 PM
. * * Re: Class E Airspace Question Gil Buettner [KAUW]   06/15/17 06:41 PM
. * * Re: Class E Airspace Question Russell Holton   06/15/17 04:13 PM
. * * Re: Class E Airspace Question Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]   06/15/17 09:13 AM
. * * Re: Class E Airspace Question Scott Dunham (RDU)   06/22/17 09:38 PM
. * * Re: Class E Airspace Question Andy Alson (HPN/NY)   06/15/17 11:47 AM
. * * Re: Class E Airspace Question Andy Alson (HPN/NY)   06/15/17 11:33 AM
. * * Re: Class E Airspace Question Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]   06/15/17 11:56 AM
. * * Re: Class E Airspace Question Andy Alson (HPN/NY)   06/15/17 01:05 PM
. * * Re: Class E Airspace Question Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]   06/15/17 02:00 PM
. * * Re: Class E Airspace Question Scott Dunham (RDU)   06/22/17 09:07 PM
. * * Re: Class E Airspace Question Andy Alson (HPN/NY)   06/22/17 09:31 PM
. * * Re: Class E Airspace Question Scott Dunham (RDU)   06/22/17 09:39 PM
. * * Re: Class E Airspace Question sreyoB yrraL   06/15/17 05:29 PM
. * * Re: Class E Airspace Question Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]   06/15/17 07:14 PM
. * * Re: Class E Airspace Question sreyoB yrraL   06/15/17 08:05 PM
. * * Re: Class E Airspace Question Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]   06/16/17 08:49 AM
. * * Re: Class E Airspace Question Gil Buettner [KAUW]   06/16/17 11:26 AM
. * * Re: Class E Airspace Question Scott Dunham (RDU)   06/22/17 08:50 PM
. * * Re: Class E Airspace Question Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]   06/16/17 12:42 PM
. * * Re: Class E Airspace Question Jeff Hartmann CIC   06/17/17 12:07 PM
. * * Re: Class E Airspace Question Randy Sohn   06/18/17 03:06 PM
. * * Re: Class E Airspace Question Andy Alson (HPN/NY)   06/15/17 02:14 PM
. * * Re: Class E Airspace Question Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]   06/15/17 06:59 PM
. * * Re: Class E Airspace Question Andy Alson (HPN/NY)   06/15/17 07:03 PM
. * * Re: Class E Airspace Question Gil Buettner [KAUW]   06/15/17 09:06 AM

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