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Dean Gibson [PAE]
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Re: Logging cross country time?
      06/30/09 09:59 AM

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My Piper Private Pilot Manual (c) 1983 lists the 50-NM requirement.




Are you sure? Here's the exchange I had with AOPA:

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Does anyone at AOPA know when (what date) the various cross country logging requirements for pilot ratings, changed from 25nm to 50nm? I'm working on a logbook program (see https://www.airmen.aero ) that detects cross-country time by the distance between airports, and I'd like to accurately reflect cross-country requirements as of the date of each flight.




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Hello
Thank you for contacting AOPA. August 4th of 1997 the new regulations went into effect.

Best regards,
Chris Prichett
Aviation Technical Specialist
Government Affairs –Pilot Information Center
800-USA-AOPA




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Thanks; however, someone on AVSIG.com mentioned that the "new" requirement is in his 1983 pilot materials, so it had to be before that. In December 1975 when I took my ATP written, the requirement was only 25 miles, so it had to be after that.

So it's somewhere between 1976 and 1983.




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I checked the 1996 and 1997 hard copy of the FAR/AIM and they had the old regulation listed. When I checked 1998 it had been changed. Before this time FAR 61.93 listed the requirements for students performing cross country flights and this was changed in the 1998 version leading me to believe the August date is likely the correct one.
I checked the 1997-98 versions once again and for a student pilot (cross country time towards a certificate or rating) the distance is listed as greater than 25nm.

Best regards,
Chris Prichett
Aviation Technical Specialist
Government Affairs –Pilot Information Center
800-USA-AOPA




However, the FAA NPRM on the 1997-08-04 changes (FAA-2006-26661-0001 - see http://www.regulations.gov/fdmspublic/Co...contentType=pdf ), indicates several changes (see change #89) from "at least 50 nautical miles" to "more than 50 nautical miles" for part 141 to conform to 61.1(b)(3)(ii), indicating to me that the "50 mile" change was probably already in place at 61.1(b)(3)(ii).

Edited by Dean Gibson [PAE] (06/30/09 11:31 AM)

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* Logging cross country time? Dean Gibson [PAE] 06/29/09 11:28 AM
. * * Re: Logging cross country time? Sean Franklin   06/29/09 11:35 AM
. * * Re: Logging cross country time? Dean Gibson [PAE]   06/29/09 11:58 AM
. * * Re: Logging cross country time? Joe Budge (W29)   06/29/09 05:43 PM
. * * Re: Logging cross country time? Dean Gibson [PAE]   06/30/09 09:59 AM
. * * Re: Logging cross country time? Joe Budge (W29)   07/07/09 09:49 AM
. * * Re: Logging cross country time? Cole Loftus [C89]   07/01/09 04:14 PM
. * * Re: Logging cross country time? Dean Gibson [PAE]   07/04/09 01:14 PM
. * * Re: Logging cross country time? Cole Loftus [C89]   07/08/09 12:24 AM
. * * Re: Logging cross country time? Cole Loftus [C89]   07/07/09 10:06 PM
. * * Re: Logging cross country time? Dean Gibson [PAE]   07/11/09 11:16 AM
. * * Re: Logging cross country time? Terry Carraway   10/06/09 10:15 AM
. * * Re: Logging cross country time? Cole Loftus [C89]   10/09/09 08:21 PM
. * * Re: Logging cross country time? Cole Loftus [C89]   07/13/09 05:30 PM
. * * Re: Logging cross country time? Mark Kolber (TTA/NC)   11/21/09 08:39 AM
. * * Re: Logging cross country time? Cole Loftus [C89]   11/23/09 01:14 AM
. * * Re: Logging cross country time? Mark Kolber (TTA/NC)   11/26/09 06:14 PM
. * * Re: Logging cross country time? Terry Carraway   11/22/09 06:51 AM
. * * Re: Logging cross country time? Tom Henderson (KOXR/SoCal)   07/11/09 11:45 PM
. * * Re: Logging cross country time? Dean Gibson [PAE]   09/15/09 11:18 PM
. * * Re: Logging cross country time? Dean Gibson [PAE]   07/01/09 10:08 AM
. * * Re: Logging cross country time? Sean Franklin   06/30/09 03:19 PM
. * * Re: Logging cross country time? Mat Waugh   06/30/09 09:57 PM
. * * Re: Logging cross country time? Tom Henderson (KOXR/SoCal)   07/02/09 01:26 AM
. * * Re: Logging cross country time? Anne Umphrey (KBED)   07/02/09 09:59 AM

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