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Ray Tackett
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Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems
      06/05/09 05:42 AM

Roger,

Flying down the runway in the flare gives you more time to look at the sight
picture and more time for precise, cross-controlled flight.

A normal crosswind landing can be just a "dump it on the ground" event which
is over very quickly. It is possible to get away with poor technique and
perhaps not even realize it.

If you fly at 40-50 knots (the usual 172 touchdown speed) down, say, a 6000
foot runway, you must hold the airplane on the center line pointed straight
ahead with crossed controls for about a minute.

In short, you get far more landing practice for each lap around the pattern.
Post-touchdown in a tricycle gear (nosewheel) airplane is generally a
non-event. Good landings start with a good approach and finish with fine
control in the flare. Better to practice fine control in the flare for a
minute or so each time around than for the usual second or two.

Bottom line: It's educational "bang for the buck" where the bucks flow
quickly.

Ray

P.S. I'm big on showing beginners the sight picture of a maneuver done
right. Then the student's objective is to "replay the video", i.e. make it
look the same themselves. The sight picture close to the runway is important
to learn.

--------------------
Ray,

Owner, Lake Wood Be Gone

Turning quality lumber into sawdust and noise since 2013.

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* Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer 05/20/09 08:04 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Dave Millikan   06/03/09 10:34 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   06/04/09 10:24 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Robert Mann [HPN-NY]   06/05/09 12:38 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Mike Campos [CA]   05/22/09 08:39 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   05/23/09 07:31 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Tina Gonsalves (7B6)   05/23/09 07:22 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Mike Campos [CA]   05/24/09 11:53 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Robert Mann [HPN-NY]   05/23/09 07:48 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Tina Gonsalves (7B6)   05/23/09 08:12 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems sreyoB yrraL   05/23/09 09:39 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Tina Gonsalves (7B6)   05/24/09 05:39 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Ray Tackett   05/24/09 10:38 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Tina Gonsalves (7B6)   05/24/09 07:43 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Ray Tackett   05/24/09 09:06 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Tina Gonsalves (7B6)   05/25/09 06:46 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Bruce Gorrell [EQY]   05/24/09 03:16 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Ray Tackett   05/24/09 06:40 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Ward Miller POU-NY   05/24/09 06:06 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Tina Gonsalves (7B6)   05/24/09 07:36 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Robert Mann [HPN-NY]   05/23/09 08:29 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Tina Gonsalves (7B6)   05/24/09 05:26 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Robert Mann [HPN-NY]   05/24/09 01:21 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Tina Gonsalves (7B6)   05/24/09 07:44 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Robert Mann [HPN-NY]   05/24/09 07:53 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Tom Tyson [SUW]   05/23/09 09:16 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems B. Butler (Oregonian)   05/23/09 01:08 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Ray Tackett   05/26/09 05:31 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Tom Tyson [SUW]   05/23/09 07:31 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems sreyoB yrraL   05/21/09 01:01 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   05/21/09 09:41 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems sreyoB yrraL   05/21/09 11:24 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   05/21/09 11:41 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems sreyoB yrraL   05/21/09 12:06 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   05/21/09 12:16 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Anne Umphrey (KBED)   05/21/09 02:34 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   05/21/09 03:41 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Jim Gifford   05/21/09 06:13 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Ray Tackett   05/21/09 01:02 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Mick Ruthven   05/21/09 10:33 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Mat Waugh   05/20/09 10:16 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Robert Mann [HPN-NY]   05/21/09 12:25 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Robert Mann [HPN-NY]   05/20/09 10:02 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems John O'Shaughnessy [FCM]   05/20/09 09:33 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Bill Bridges - 9S1   05/20/09 10:08 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]   05/20/09 10:32 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Gil Buettner [KAUW]   05/20/09 08:29 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   05/20/09 09:09 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Trig Johnston   08/12/17 04:19 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Terry Carraway   08/13/17 04:15 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Randy Sohn   08/13/17 07:11 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Trig Johnston   09/25/17 08:44 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Randy Sohn   09/25/17 12:52 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Scott Dunham (RDU)   08/14/17 08:02 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Terry Carraway   08/15/17 08:21 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems nehoC hctiM   08/15/17 11:03 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Randy Sohn   08/26/17 05:58 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Scott Dunham (RDU)   08/15/17 04:31 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Dan Barclay [ORG]   05/21/09 12:46 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Anne Umphrey (KBED)   05/21/09 10:33 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Ray Tackett   05/21/09 08:54 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   05/22/09 09:27 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Ray Tackett   05/22/09 04:27 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems sreyoB yrraL   05/22/09 01:17 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Bill Bridges - 9S1   05/22/09 03:35 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Mike Stramba CNC3   05/29/09 11:43 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   06/03/09 09:48 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems John O'Shaughnessy [FCM]   06/29/09 05:26 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Mike Campos [CA]   07/09/09 06:18 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   07/09/09 06:54 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Jim Gifford   07/11/09 10:16 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   07/17/09 01:41 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Mike Campos [CA]   07/28/09 12:15 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   07/29/09 03:38 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Mike Stramba CNC3   07/29/09 07:12 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   07/30/09 08:23 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Mike Campos [CA]   07/30/09 02:01 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Mike Campos [CA]   08/10/09 05:25 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]   08/10/09 06:41 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Mike Campos [CA]   08/11/09 10:38 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   08/11/09 09:08 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Anne Umphrey (KBED)   08/16/09 09:30 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   08/22/09 09:56 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   08/09/09 10:46 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Kcid LlirreM   08/13/09 09:37 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   08/13/09 08:53 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]   08/09/09 12:46 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Ralph Jones   08/09/09 12:20 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems sreyoB yrraL   07/30/09 12:33 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Mase Taylor   07/29/09 04:13 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Anne Umphrey (KBED)   07/29/09 04:01 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Mike Stramba CNC3   07/17/09 06:48 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Ray Tackett   07/17/09 08:39 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Ray Tackett   07/17/09 06:15 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Anne Umphrey (KBED)   07/17/09 07:44 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   07/17/09 08:33 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Andy Dulay [PGD]   07/18/09 09:06 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   07/27/09 12:15 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Ray Tackett   07/27/09 10:32 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Anne Umphrey (KBED)   07/27/09 08:19 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Mike Stramba CNC3   07/27/09 01:38 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]   07/17/09 07:33 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Larry James (KVKX)   07/17/09 06:09 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems John O'Shaughnessy [FCM]   07/10/09 02:58 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems sreyoB yrraL   07/10/09 12:00 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Anne Umphrey (KBED)   07/09/09 09:40 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Ray Tackett   06/04/09 05:50 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   06/04/09 10:21 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Ray Tackett   06/05/09 05:42 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Cole Loftus [C89]   06/04/09 12:28 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Mike Campos [CA]   06/01/09 12:33 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   05/22/09 02:04 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Dan Barclay [ORG]   05/22/09 04:21 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Ron Rosenfeld (EPM)   05/22/09 03:16 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems sreyoB yrraL   05/22/09 02:16 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Ray Tackett   05/22/09 11:51 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]   05/22/09 10:58 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Tina Gonsalves (7B6)   05/22/09 07:37 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Dan Barclay [ORG]   05/21/09 06:17 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Kcid LlirreM   05/22/09 09:00 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Anne Umphrey (KBED)   05/21/09 08:44 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Anne Umphrey (KBED)   05/20/09 09:46 PM

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