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Tom Tyson [SUW]
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Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems
      05/23/09 09:16 AM

Hi Roger - Welcome to the 'drome!

One thing I haven't seen mentioned here are the instruments.

New students tend to focus on the altimeter as it seems to give absolute information. But forget "absolute" altitude numbers.

What you're seeking here is a "TLAR" approach and landing. TLAR stands for "That Looks About Right". You want to develop the picture of what looks right >OUTSIDE< of the cockpit. I'm sure your instructor has already broached the subject, but as you fly the final leg of the approach, look out through the windscreen and find the point on the ground that, relative to the windscreen seems to stay put, neither appearing to rise up the windscreen or fall. That's the point where (if you don't flare) you're going to touch down. The first few times, it might even help to have the instructor fly the approach and let you simply concentrate on the outside picture. Once you learn to judge your relative touchdown point, a lot of other things will simply fall into place.

Cross-check your airspeed, but don't worry about being 5' high or 12'low. That information is pretty meaningless in the total scope of things, and your developing sight picture will tell you a lot more about how the landing is going.

Once again, Welcome !

- TT

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* Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer 05/20/09 08:04 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Dave Millikan   06/03/09 10:34 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   06/04/09 10:24 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Robert Mann [HPN-NY]   06/05/09 12:38 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Mike Campos [CA]   05/22/09 08:39 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   05/23/09 07:31 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Tina Gonsalves (7B6)   05/23/09 07:22 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Mike Campos [CA]   05/24/09 11:53 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Robert Mann [HPN-NY]   05/23/09 07:48 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Tina Gonsalves (7B6)   05/23/09 08:12 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems sreyoB yrraL   05/23/09 09:39 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Tina Gonsalves (7B6)   05/24/09 05:39 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Ray Tackett   05/24/09 10:38 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Tina Gonsalves (7B6)   05/24/09 07:43 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Ray Tackett   05/24/09 09:06 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Tina Gonsalves (7B6)   05/25/09 06:46 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Bruce Gorrell [EQY]   05/24/09 03:16 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Ray Tackett   05/24/09 06:40 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Ward Miller POU-NY   05/24/09 06:06 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Tina Gonsalves (7B6)   05/24/09 07:36 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Robert Mann [HPN-NY]   05/23/09 08:29 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Tina Gonsalves (7B6)   05/24/09 05:26 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Robert Mann [HPN-NY]   05/24/09 01:21 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Tina Gonsalves (7B6)   05/24/09 07:44 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Robert Mann [HPN-NY]   05/24/09 07:53 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Tom Tyson [SUW]   05/23/09 09:16 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems B. Butler (Oregonian)   05/23/09 01:08 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Ray Tackett   05/26/09 05:31 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Tom Tyson [SUW]   05/23/09 07:31 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems sreyoB yrraL   05/21/09 01:01 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   05/21/09 09:41 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems sreyoB yrraL   05/21/09 11:24 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   05/21/09 11:41 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems sreyoB yrraL   05/21/09 12:06 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   05/21/09 12:16 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Anne Umphrey (KBED)   05/21/09 02:34 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   05/21/09 03:41 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Jim Gifford   05/21/09 06:13 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Ray Tackett   05/21/09 01:02 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Mick Ruthven   05/21/09 10:33 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Mat Waugh   05/20/09 10:16 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Robert Mann [HPN-NY]   05/21/09 12:25 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Robert Mann [HPN-NY]   05/20/09 10:02 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems John O'Shaughnessy [FCM]   05/20/09 09:33 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Bill Bridges - 9S1   05/20/09 10:08 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]   05/20/09 10:32 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Gil Buettner [KAUW]   05/20/09 08:29 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   05/20/09 09:09 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Trig Johnston   08/12/17 04:19 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Terry Carraway   08/13/17 04:15 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Randy Sohn   08/13/17 07:11 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Trig Johnston   09/25/17 08:44 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Randy Sohn   09/25/17 12:52 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Scott Dunham (RDU)   08/14/17 08:02 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Terry Carraway   08/15/17 08:21 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems nehoC hctiM   08/15/17 11:03 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Randy Sohn   08/26/17 05:58 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Scott Dunham (RDU)   08/15/17 04:31 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Dan Barclay [ORG]   05/21/09 12:46 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Anne Umphrey (KBED)   05/21/09 10:33 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Ray Tackett   05/21/09 08:54 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   05/22/09 09:27 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Ray Tackett   05/22/09 04:27 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems sreyoB yrraL   05/22/09 01:17 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Bill Bridges - 9S1   05/22/09 03:35 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Mike Stramba CNC3   05/29/09 11:43 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   06/03/09 09:48 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems John O'Shaughnessy [FCM]   06/29/09 05:26 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Mike Campos [CA]   07/09/09 06:18 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   07/09/09 06:54 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Jim Gifford   07/11/09 10:16 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   07/17/09 01:41 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Mike Campos [CA]   07/28/09 12:15 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   07/29/09 03:38 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Mike Stramba CNC3   07/29/09 07:12 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   07/30/09 08:23 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Mike Campos [CA]   07/30/09 02:01 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Mike Campos [CA]   08/10/09 05:25 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]   08/10/09 06:41 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Mike Campos [CA]   08/11/09 10:38 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   08/11/09 09:08 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Anne Umphrey (KBED)   08/16/09 09:30 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   08/22/09 09:56 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   08/09/09 10:46 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Kcid LlirreM   08/13/09 09:37 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   08/13/09 08:53 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]   08/09/09 12:46 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Ralph Jones   08/09/09 12:20 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems sreyoB yrraL   07/30/09 12:33 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Mase Taylor   07/29/09 04:13 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Anne Umphrey (KBED)   07/29/09 04:01 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Mike Stramba CNC3   07/17/09 06:48 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Ray Tackett   07/17/09 08:39 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Ray Tackett   07/17/09 06:15 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Anne Umphrey (KBED)   07/17/09 07:44 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   07/17/09 08:33 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Andy Dulay [PGD]   07/18/09 09:06 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   07/27/09 12:15 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Ray Tackett   07/27/09 10:32 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Anne Umphrey (KBED)   07/27/09 08:19 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Mike Stramba CNC3   07/27/09 01:38 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]   07/17/09 07:33 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Larry James (KVKX)   07/17/09 06:09 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems John O'Shaughnessy [FCM]   07/10/09 02:58 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems sreyoB yrraL   07/10/09 12:00 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Anne Umphrey (KBED)   07/09/09 09:40 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Ray Tackett   06/04/09 05:50 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   06/04/09 10:21 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Ray Tackett   06/05/09 05:42 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Cole Loftus [C89]   06/04/09 12:28 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Mike Campos [CA]   06/01/09 12:33 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   05/22/09 02:04 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Dan Barclay [ORG]   05/22/09 04:21 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Ron Rosenfeld (EPM)   05/22/09 03:16 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems sreyoB yrraL   05/22/09 02:16 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Ray Tackett   05/22/09 11:51 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]   05/22/09 10:58 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Tina Gonsalves (7B6)   05/22/09 07:37 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Dan Barclay [ORG]   05/21/09 06:17 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Kcid LlirreM   05/22/09 09:00 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Anne Umphrey (KBED)   05/21/09 08:44 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Anne Umphrey (KBED)   05/20/09 09:46 PM

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