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Dan Barclay [ORG]
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Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems
      05/21/09 06:17 PM

>> With the former, you are using your total vision especially your
>> peripheral vision to assess where you are. In landing if you look down 9
>> times out of 10 your nose will go where your eyes are and you won't land
>> flat on the skids. Not a good thing.

I wish I'd known that back when I tried to land a helicopter. A guy that
owed me a favor got permission from his boss to let a couple of us fly a Jet
Ranger (not exactly solo naturally). By the time it was my turn it was dusk
and I figured, what the heck, if I can just keep the landing light pointed at
the same spot on the ground...

It's hard to explain just how dumb that is, and particularly embarrassing for
an engineer, but it seemed like a good idea at the time. It turns out that
the physics for that approach just don't work, but I'm guessing you know that.

Fortunately the pilot was a Viet Nam guy who had saved much worse, probably
while taking fire.

FWIW, hovering seemed a lot like trying to stand on one foot on top of a
beach ball. One day I'll go take some actual lessons.

Dan

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* Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer 05/20/09 08:04 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Dave Millikan   06/03/09 10:34 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   06/04/09 10:24 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Robert Mann [HPN-NY]   06/05/09 12:38 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Mike Campos [CA]   05/22/09 08:39 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   05/23/09 07:31 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Tina Gonsalves (7B6)   05/23/09 07:22 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Mike Campos [CA]   05/24/09 11:53 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Robert Mann [HPN-NY]   05/23/09 07:48 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Tina Gonsalves (7B6)   05/23/09 08:12 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems sreyoB yrraL   05/23/09 09:39 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Tina Gonsalves (7B6)   05/24/09 05:39 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Ray Tackett   05/24/09 10:38 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Tina Gonsalves (7B6)   05/24/09 07:43 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Ray Tackett   05/24/09 09:06 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Tina Gonsalves (7B6)   05/25/09 06:46 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Bruce Gorrell [EQY]   05/24/09 03:16 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Ray Tackett   05/24/09 06:40 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Ward Miller POU-NY   05/24/09 06:06 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Tina Gonsalves (7B6)   05/24/09 07:36 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Robert Mann [HPN-NY]   05/23/09 08:29 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Tina Gonsalves (7B6)   05/24/09 05:26 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Robert Mann [HPN-NY]   05/24/09 01:21 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Tina Gonsalves (7B6)   05/24/09 07:44 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Robert Mann [HPN-NY]   05/24/09 07:53 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Tom Tyson [SUW]   05/23/09 09:16 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems B. Butler (Oregonian)   05/23/09 01:08 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Ray Tackett   05/26/09 05:31 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Tom Tyson [SUW]   05/23/09 07:31 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems sreyoB yrraL   05/21/09 01:01 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   05/21/09 09:41 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems sreyoB yrraL   05/21/09 11:24 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   05/21/09 11:41 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems sreyoB yrraL   05/21/09 12:06 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   05/21/09 12:16 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Anne Umphrey (KBED)   05/21/09 02:34 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   05/21/09 03:41 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Jim Gifford   05/21/09 06:13 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Ray Tackett   05/21/09 01:02 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Mick Ruthven   05/21/09 10:33 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Mat Waugh   05/20/09 10:16 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Robert Mann [HPN-NY]   05/21/09 12:25 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Robert Mann [HPN-NY]   05/20/09 10:02 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems John O'Shaughnessy [FCM]   05/20/09 09:33 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Bill Bridges - 9S1   05/20/09 10:08 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]   05/20/09 10:32 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Gil Buettner [KAUW]   05/20/09 08:29 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   05/20/09 09:09 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Trig Johnston   08/12/17 04:19 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Terry Carraway   08/13/17 04:15 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Randy Sohn   08/13/17 07:11 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Trig Johnston   09/25/17 08:44 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Randy Sohn   09/25/17 12:52 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Scott Dunham (RDU)   08/14/17 08:02 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Terry Carraway   08/15/17 08:21 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems nehoC hctiM   08/15/17 11:03 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Randy Sohn   08/26/17 05:58 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Scott Dunham (RDU)   08/15/17 04:31 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Dan Barclay [ORG]   05/21/09 12:46 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Anne Umphrey (KBED)   05/21/09 10:33 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Ray Tackett   05/21/09 08:54 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   05/22/09 09:27 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Ray Tackett   05/22/09 04:27 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems sreyoB yrraL   05/22/09 01:17 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Bill Bridges - 9S1   05/22/09 03:35 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Mike Stramba CNC3   05/29/09 11:43 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   06/03/09 09:48 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems John O'Shaughnessy [FCM]   06/29/09 05:26 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Mike Campos [CA]   07/09/09 06:18 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   07/09/09 06:54 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Jim Gifford   07/11/09 10:16 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   07/17/09 01:41 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Mike Campos [CA]   07/28/09 12:15 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   07/29/09 03:38 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Mike Stramba CNC3   07/29/09 07:12 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   07/30/09 08:23 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Mike Campos [CA]   07/30/09 02:01 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Mike Campos [CA]   08/10/09 05:25 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]   08/10/09 06:41 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Mike Campos [CA]   08/11/09 10:38 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   08/11/09 09:08 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Anne Umphrey (KBED)   08/16/09 09:30 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   08/22/09 09:56 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   08/09/09 10:46 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Kcid LlirreM   08/13/09 09:37 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   08/13/09 08:53 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]   08/09/09 12:46 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Ralph Jones   08/09/09 12:20 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems sreyoB yrraL   07/30/09 12:33 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Mase Taylor   07/29/09 04:13 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Anne Umphrey (KBED)   07/29/09 04:01 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Mike Stramba CNC3   07/17/09 06:48 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Ray Tackett   07/17/09 08:39 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Ray Tackett   07/17/09 06:15 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Anne Umphrey (KBED)   07/17/09 07:44 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   07/17/09 08:33 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Andy Dulay [PGD]   07/18/09 09:06 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   07/27/09 12:15 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Ray Tackett   07/27/09 10:32 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Anne Umphrey (KBED)   07/27/09 08:19 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Mike Stramba CNC3   07/27/09 01:38 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]   07/17/09 07:33 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Larry James (KVKX)   07/17/09 06:09 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems John O'Shaughnessy [FCM]   07/10/09 02:58 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems sreyoB yrraL   07/10/09 12:00 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Anne Umphrey (KBED)   07/09/09 09:40 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Ray Tackett   06/04/09 05:50 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   06/04/09 10:21 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Ray Tackett   06/05/09 05:42 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Cole Loftus [C89]   06/04/09 12:28 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Mike Campos [CA]   06/01/09 12:33 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Roger Ferrer   05/22/09 02:04 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Dan Barclay [ORG]   05/22/09 04:21 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Ron Rosenfeld (EPM)   05/22/09 03:16 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems sreyoB yrraL   05/22/09 02:16 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Ray Tackett   05/22/09 11:51 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]   05/22/09 10:58 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Tina Gonsalves (7B6)   05/22/09 07:37 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Dan Barclay [ORG]   05/21/09 06:17 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Kcid LlirreM   05/22/09 09:00 AM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Anne Umphrey (KBED)   05/21/09 08:44 PM
. * * Re: Student Pilot - Landing Problems Anne Umphrey (KBED)   05/20/09 09:46 PM

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