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Rick Durden
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Re: Turbine P-Baron
      06/15/08 11:23 AM

Dave,

I'm curious about range and useful load - the horrendous problem of the small airframes and turbine engines is the inability to carry enough fuel for decent range and still be able to put something in the cabin. It pretty much meant the turbine P210 and Bonanza wouldn't really work out; Piper only recently solved the issue on the Meridian by installing VGs to get the stall speed under control so now it will take three plus baggage when full of gas (1,000 nm VFR range, plus or minus 850 IFR) and no matter what, you've got to get up in the 20s to get any range and endurance.

My other area of curiousity is airframe changes needed for the speeds desired - when Riley put together a turbine version of the Cessna 421 it just didn't work; the airframe wasn't designed for that kind of horsepower - when Cessna made the 425 it only superficially resembled the 421 due to all the changes that had to be made to the airframe to handle the power upgrade. When Piper developed the Meridian from the Malibu/Mirage the only thing that wound up being common the fuselage....

Warmest regards,
Rick

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* Turbine P-Baron Dave Siciliano (ADS) 03/29/08 02:09 PM
. * * Re: Turbine P-Baron Jeff Hartmann CIC   06/15/08 09:11 AM
. * * Re: Turbine P-Baron Dave Siciliano (ADS)   06/15/08 09:49 AM
. * * Re: Turbine P-Baron Curtis Sanford (SQL)   06/15/08 10:05 PM
. * * Re: Turbine P-Baron Dave Siciliano (ADS)   06/16/08 11:06 AM
. * * Re: Turbine P-Baron Ralph Jones   06/16/08 11:12 AM
. * * Re: Turbine P-Baron Tom Tyson [SUW]   06/16/08 08:18 PM
. * * Re: Turbine P-Baron Tom Tyson [SUW]   07/29/08 10:20 AM
. * * Re: Turbine P-Baron Jeff Hartmann CIC   06/15/08 12:48 PM
. * * Re: Turbine P-Baron Dave Siciliano (ADS)   06/15/08 01:00 PM
. * * Re: Turbine P-Baron Dave Siciliano (ADS)   09/19/08 04:07 PM
. * * Re: Turbine P-Baron Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]   09/19/08 05:09 PM
. * * Re: Turbine P-Baron Dave Siciliano (ADS)   09/19/08 06:48 PM
. * * Re: Turbine P-Baron Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]   09/19/08 08:02 PM
. * * Re: Turbine P-Baron Robert Mann [HPN-NY]   09/19/08 11:41 PM
. * * Re: Turbine P-Baron Dave Siciliano (ADS)   09/19/08 08:25 PM
. * * Re: Turbine P-Baron Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]   09/19/08 09:33 PM
. * * Re: Turbine P-Baron Robert Mann [HPN-NY]   09/19/08 05:37 PM
. * * Re: Turbine P-Baron Dave Siciliano (ADS)   09/19/08 06:51 PM
. * * Re: Turbine P-Baron Robert Mann [HPN-NY]   09/19/08 11:25 PM
. * * Re: Turbine P-Baron Jeff Hartmann CIC   09/19/08 05:14 PM
. * * Re: Turbine P-Baron Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]   09/19/08 05:37 PM
. * * Re: Turbine P-Baron Robert Mann [HPN-NY]   09/19/08 04:55 PM
. * * Re: Turbine P-Baron Dave Siciliano (ADS)   09/19/08 05:15 PM
. * * Re: Turbine P-Baron Rick Durden   09/19/08 04:47 PM
. * * Re: Turbine P-Baron Dave Siciliano (ADS)   09/19/08 05:15 PM
. * * Re: Turbine P-Baron Robert Mann [HPN-NY]   09/19/08 10:55 PM
. * * Re: Turbine P-Baron Dave Siciliano (ADS)   09/19/08 11:45 PM
. * * Re: Turbine P-Baron Dave Siciliano (ADS)   09/20/08 12:24 PM
. * * Re: Turbine P-Baron Robert Mann [HPN-NY]   09/20/08 12:45 PM
. * * Re: Turbine P-Baron Dave Siciliano (ADS)   09/20/08 01:50 PM
. * * Re: Turbine P-Baron Mase Taylor   09/20/08 02:09 PM
. * * Re: Turbine P-Baron Dave Siciliano (ADS)   09/20/08 03:42 PM
. * * Re: Turbine P-Baron Rick Durden   06/15/08 11:23 AM
. * * Re: Turbine P-Baron Dave Siciliano (ADS)   06/15/08 12:53 PM
. * * Re: Turbine P-Baron Dave Siciliano (ADS)   06/15/08 12:55 PM
. * * Re: Turbine P-Baron Tony Williams [MYF]   06/15/08 01:19 AM
. * * Re: Turbine P-Baron Dave Siciliano (ADS)   06/15/08 09:51 AM

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