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Walter Atkinson
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Loc: Vail, Colorado
Re: Bonanza or Columbia
      01/14/07 01:53 PM

Gentlemen:

Things to consider:

The TSIO/TIO engines have problems with high TITs. Some are very difficult to get to run properly LOP. (read any factory turbo-charged model, whether Columbia, Mooney, Beech or Cessna).

The turbonormalized engines do not suffer this disadvantage (read TN Bo or TN Cirrus).

My Bo has 120 gallons of fuel, goes 200-210 knots, depending on altitude and with full fuel has 900 pounds of PAYLOAD (four adults AND luggage). With four hours of fuel it has a 1200 pound payload (that's SIX 200 pound adults or very large children!).

If I needed a 2-3 seat speedster, it would be the TN Cirrus. If I needed a four seat+ load hauling fast machine, I'd be looking for a TN Bonanza. If I needed a load hauler and didn't mind a problem, PITA engine installation, I'd look for a T-210, but beware, it's tough to get them to run right. When they do, they are nice. When they don't they are a real money pit trying to get them there with no guarantee that you will make it.

I like the NA Columbia. I am less favorably impressed with the TC'd Col-400.

My good friend Rick's comments notwithstanding, and the fact that I've been around plastic boats my whole life, I think it very fair to say that the jury is still out on the longevity of the composite airframes.

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Walter Atkinson
It's not the miles you've traveled; it's the stops you've made.

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* Bonanza or Columbia Joel Aiken (RDU) 01/12/07 04:49 AM
. * * Re: Bonanza or Columbia Robert Mann [HPN-NY]   01/14/07 10:26 AM
. * * Re: Bonanza or Columbia Walter Atkinson   01/14/07 01:53 PM
. * * Re: Bonanza or Columbia Tom Gresham (HDC)   01/15/07 11:33 AM
. * * Re: Bonanza or Columbia Nigel Thompson(1D2)   01/13/07 09:46 AM
. * * Re: Bonanza or Columbia Joel Aiken (RDU)   01/14/07 06:41 AM
. * * Re: Bonanza or Columbia Rick Durden   01/13/07 12:09 PM
. * * Re: Bonanza or Columbia - G1000 thoughts Andrew Niemyer -KDLH   01/13/07 06:12 AM
. * * Re: Bonanza or Columbia Mike McNamara - 19N (NJ)   01/12/07 11:00 AM
. * * Re: Bonanza or Columbia Stephanie Belser   01/12/07 11:32 AM
. * * Re: Bonanza or Columbia Joel Aiken (RDU)   01/12/07 11:27 AM
. * * Re: Bonanza or Columbia Rick Durden   01/12/07 08:22 AM
. * * Re: Bonanza or Columbia Joel Aiken (RDU)   01/12/07 11:50 AM
. * * Re: Bonanza or Columbia Dave Siciliano (ADS)   01/12/07 06:44 AM
. * * Re: Bonanza or Columbia Bill Bridges - 9S1   01/13/07 10:13 AM
. * * Re: Bonanza or Columbia Dave Siciliano (ADS)   01/13/07 01:35 PM
. * * Re: Bonanza or Columbia Joel Aiken (RDU)   01/12/07 12:04 PM
. * * Re: Bonanza or Columbia Joel Aiken (RDU)   10/31/07 04:22 PM
. * * Re: Bonanza or Columbia Rick Durden   10/31/07 05:10 PM
. * * Re: Bonanza or Columbia Joel Aiken (RDU)   10/31/07 08:09 PM
. * * Re: Bonanza or Columbia Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]   10/31/07 04:49 PM
. * * Re: Bonanza or Columbia Joel Aiken (RDU)   10/31/07 08:05 PM
. * * Re: Bonanza or Columbia Kcid LlirreM   11/01/07 08:50 PM
. * * Re: Bonanza or Columbia Rick Durden   11/01/07 09:08 PM
. * * Re: Bonanza or Columbia Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]   10/31/07 09:08 PM
. * * Re: Bonanza or Columbia Rick Durden   01/13/07 05:00 AM
. * * Re: Bonanza or Columbia George Braly   01/13/07 03:48 PM
. * * Re: Bonanza or Columbia Joel Aiken (RDU)   01/14/07 06:23 AM
. * * Re: Bonanza or Columbia Andrew Niemyer -KDLH   01/14/07 06:40 AM
. * * Re: Bonanza or Columbia Rick Durden   01/14/07 03:02 AM
. * * Re: Bonanza or Columbia Dave Siciliano (ADS)   01/12/07 12:26 PM
. * * Re: Bonanza or Columbia Stephanie Belser   01/12/07 07:03 AM
. * * Re: Bonanza or Columbia Joel Aiken (RDU)   01/12/07 11:53 AM
. * * Re: Bonanza or Columbia Joel Aiken (RDU)   02/15/07 05:48 PM
. * * Re: Bonanza or Columbia Rick Durden   02/19/07 03:31 AM
. * * Re: Bonanza or Columbia Andrew Niemyer -KDLH   02/16/07 03:21 AM

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