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Mase Taylor
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Old Birds In The Boneyard....
      #305345 - 12/04/10 02:38 AM Attachment (127 downloads)

Stole this URL from a message on the Red Board....tons of photos of old birds at Davis-Monthan.

BONEYARD PHOTOS




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Fly The Airplane As Far Into The Crash As Possible. - Bob Hoover 1922-2016 R.I.P.

Edited by Mase Taylor (12/04/10 02:41 AM)


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John Tucci (LDJ)
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Re: Old Birds In The Boneyard.... [Re: Mase Taylor]
      #305349 - 12/04/10 09:10 AM

Thanks Mase for posting. I visited the boneyard 2 yrs ago and enjoyed every minute of it.

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Anne Umphrey (KBED)
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Re: Old Birds In The Boneyard.... [Re: Mase Taylor]
      #305389 - 12/04/10 05:32 PM

About 12 years ago I had the opportunity to fly my helicopter right over the boneyard. It was fascinating and sad and beautiful all at the same time. They were artistically arranged, not planned that way, I'm sure.

Anne

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Mase Taylor
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Re: Old Birds In The Boneyard.... [Re: Anne Umphrey (KBED)]
      #305400 - 12/04/10 07:55 PM

That place would be a treasure trove for anyone engaged in restorations, or just interested in aviation history.

Anyone know what engines the KC97/C97 was outfitted with?

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Edited by Mase Taylor (12/04/10 07:57 PM)


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Gil Buettner [KAUW]
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Re: Old Birds In The Boneyard.... [Re: Mase Taylor]
      #305401 - 12/04/10 08:00 PM

Quote:


Anyone know what engines the KC97/C97 was outfitted with?




I am sure that Randy knows.

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Mase Taylor
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Re: Old Birds In The Boneyard.... [Re: Mase Taylor]
      #305402 - 12/04/10 08:02 PM Attachment (123 downloads)

What a fine use of aluminum.....




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Edited by Mase Taylor (12/04/10 08:03 PM)


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Ralph Jones
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Re: Old Birds In The Boneyard.... [Re: Mase Taylor]
      #305404 - 12/04/10 08:14 PM

Quote:

Anyone know what engines the KC97/C97 was outfitted with?




R-4360's, plus two J47's in the KC-97L variant.

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Jeff Hartmann CIC
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Re: Old Birds In The Boneyard.... [Re: Mase Taylor]
      #305405 - 12/04/10 08:15 PM

4360s

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/bomber/kc-97.htm

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Mase Taylor
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Re: Old Birds In The Boneyard.... [Re: Jeff Hartmann CIC]
      #305411 - 12/04/10 09:15 PM

B-29 derivative, huh. Yep, I can see the fambly resemblance....



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Ralph Jones
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Re: Old Birds In The Boneyard.... [Re: Mase Taylor]
      #305415 - 12/04/10 09:40 PM

Yes indeed. The B-50 is a B-29 up-engined to R-4360's. If you slice off the top quarter of the B-50 fuselage, you have something almost identical to the part of a C-97 below the crease.

The figure-8 cross section in the C-97 is a simple way to get more interior volume in a pressurized fuselage, using lots of existing parts. A circular cross section is the ideal shape for pressurization, because the internal pressure imposes no bending loads on the skin: it's pure tensile stress. The C-97 has a second, larger circular section grafted on top, and the deck that separates them is a tension member that nicely substitutes for the missing parts of the two circles.

The alternative would be just to make the B-50 fuselage diameter bigger -- and that would mean redesigning the wing and the spar carry-through, because the wing root would meet the fuselage at more widely separated points.

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