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Dave Millikan
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Wierd contrails
      #186811 - 02/29/08 06:19 PM

With a recent cold front passage, this afternoons blue sky was filled with contrails (while sitting on the porch with a Busch). Central Florida.
One contrail was different. It had a puff about twice the width of the contrail and spaced about 4x the width of the contrail. If its some kind of pulse engine, that seem s too far apart unless it was supersonic.
Unfortunately, I didn't see it go by, to judge its speed.
Maybe a normal engine with stomach trouble?

Dave M


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Bob Heisner
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Re: Wierd contrails [Re: Dave Millikan]
      #186816 - 02/29/08 06:44 PM

Quote:

With a recent cold front passage, this afternoons blue sky was filled with contrails (while sitting on the porch with a Busch). Central Florida.
One contrail was different. It had a puff about twice the width of the contrail and spaced about 4x the width of the contrail. If its some kind of pulse engine, that seem s too far apart unless it was supersonic.
Unfortunately, I didn't see it go by, to judge its speed.
Maybe a normal engine with stomach trouble?

Dave M



I have seen conditions where the bottom of the cotrail layer was wavy. So an airplane flying just along the bottom could be in and out of the conditions required to for contrail ice. Same with the tops. We used to carefully find the tops and bottoms when flying combat air patrols so we could mark only when we wanted to.

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Bruce Gorrell [CLT, mostly]
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Re: Wierd contrails [Re: Dave Millikan]
      #186822 - 02/29/08 08:11 PM

One word: CHEMTRAILS

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Jeff Hartmann (INT/SVH)
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Re: Wierd contrails [Re: Bruce Gorrell [CLT, mostly]]
      #186859 - 03/01/08 09:43 AM

Bruce is right...

http://educate-yourself.org/ct/

It's on the internet It MUST be true!

This report from an accredited member of the Society for Dowsers...

(During certain atmospheric conditions I have the same problems with my bathroom mirror)

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John Graff
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Re: Wierd contrails [Re: Jeff Hartmann (INT/SVH)]
      #186892 - 03/01/08 03:16 PM

Jeff:

Quote:

(During certain atmospheric conditions I have the same problems with my Bathroom mirror)



What was your BVR at take-off this morning?

John


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John Graff
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Re: Wierd contrails [Re: Bob Heisner]
      #186894 - 03/01/08 03:24 PM

Bob:

Quote:

I have seen conditions where the bottom of the cotrail layer was wavy. So an airplane flying just along the bottom could be in and out of the conditions required to for contrail ice. Same with the tops. We used to carefully find the tops and bottoms when flying combat air patrols so we could mark only when we wanted to.



The "Wave-Form" also has vertical displacements, sometimes sufficient enough for visual note of trail disontinuity while maintaining a given Flight Level: > ___ ___ ___ ___ _________>

Best, John


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Bob Heisner
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Re: Wierd contrails [Re: John Graff]
      #186952 - 03/02/08 12:10 AM

Very true.

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Jeff Hartmann (INT/SVH)
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Re: Wierd contrails [Re: John Graff]
      #186970 - 03/02/08 08:37 AM

John,

Ahhh Bullsh..

>>> while maintaining a given Flight Level: > ___ ___ ___ ___ _________> <<<

It's a morse code signal, it tells the important people to put on their masks, while the rest of us get gassed!

(they only tell you this stuff on AM radio at 2:30am)<g>

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