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Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]
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Re: Have you ever known "This Guy?" [Re: nehoC hctiM]
      #442067 - 08/28/17 08:46 PM

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They say memory is the first thing to go???

I remember having an in depth discussion about this topic, as it really lit my fuse.
Items including, "What happens when you break out of an overcast and there is traffic on top?
What do you do with your transponder?
Do you realize what you are doing is highly unintelligent AND dangerous?"
Wish I could remember more of the specific guy so I could look him up, but unfortunately I can't remember him other than meeting him at CCB and doing a short round trip to SMO including maneuvers.

Turning the table 360 degrees around, (Mayor Rizzo reference) how would YOU have handled such an individual?


On the original springboard, I had heard some stories over the years about guys with no FAA pilots license flying planes solo, and the FAA unable to do anything like take their licenses away, since they never had one (even student pilot) to begin with.




Hi Mitch -- I can't say with certainty how I'd handle it, but I"d have had to think long and hard about signing him off to fly patients for any organization of which I'm a part. Without good judgment and a compliant attitude I really won't care about stellar stick ability. Maybe I'd have been ok with it, provided that he was unabashedly ashamed and utterly eschewed such behavior in the future (assuming also that it only had happened in years passed and wasn't either current or in the recent past). But it doesn't sound like that's where his head was when he came to you.

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Randy Sohn
Gradn Exlated Ordre of teh Fyling Fingres


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Loc: Savage, MN - U.S.A.
Re: Have you ever known "This Guy?" [Re: Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]]
      #442070 - 08/28/17 09:18 PM

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Without good judgment




Scott, you made me here think back to doing many checkrides on NOR, IIRC one of (prolly the predominant one) items we had to assess/grade on the 61.58 or type rating was "judgement". That last one was either an S or a U.

best, randy


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Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]
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Re: Have you ever known "This Guy?" [Re: Randy Sohn]
      #442081 - 08/29/17 08:29 AM

Randy -- Judgment is back at or near the top of the proverbial list with the change from the PTS to Airman Certification Standards (ACS). It's a challenge to assess it in a short check format, and delve down into how the pilot actually does things (and not how they say they do or would do things).

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Randy Sohn
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Re: Have you ever known "This Guy?" [Re: Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]]
      #442082 - 08/29/17 09:22 AM

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challenge to assess it in a short check format




"Now ain't THAT the cotton-pickin' truth!"

best, randy (ex-NDPER)


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Jeff Hartmann CIC
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Reged: 05/18/04
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Loc: Chico,CA
Re: Have you ever known "This Guy?" [Re: nehoC hctiM]
      #442090 - 08/30/17 01:32 AM

I may have told this before.
( Now, this ain't no sh*t )
Proper Intro.

a guy I knew with a Tri Pacer on the field where I instructed (Sussex, NJ) said he was going to Boston that evening. I had a girlfriend there and asked to go along. I climb in and off we go. I doze off. I wake up to see solid undercast for as far as I can see, and he says we are almost there. I asked how we were going to get down, and he just noses us over to go into the clouds...before we got into them I eased us back up, and asked how he knew where we were. He didn't.. I found a couple of moldy sectionals, and ( this was a while back) called Flight Service for a DF steer. Then got a clearance to descend through the layer. Plenty of ceiling, but he was just going to push it over and hope for the best. Not arrogant, just a little ignorant.

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nothing clever to say right now...


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Richard Duxbury (Dux)
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Re: Have you ever known "This Guy?" [Re: Jeff Hartmann CIC]
      #442102 - 08/30/17 02:34 PM

Hi Jeff

Well, Darwin often rules in these situations -sigh. Good story and you perhaps kept Darwin away that night.

Regards,

Dux -and I think this may no longer be true -but decades ago in Europe, all night flying was considered IMC? thus I would assume qualified and trained?


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Jeff Hartmann CIC
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Re: Have you ever known "This Guy?" [Re: Richard Duxbury (Dux)]
      #442121 - 08/30/17 07:44 PM

Sussex...New Jersey

But, I was...Darwin was not.

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Paul Millner [OAK]
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Re: Have you ever known "This Guy?" [Re: nehoC hctiM]
      #444984 - 11/19/17 07:18 AM

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As to the original question, have you ever bumped into anyone that admitted or even bragged at breaking the FARs or rules?




Pretty much sums up my entire 4.5 years of hangar flying in Beaumont TX. Got a particular thrill out of the guys doing their own prop overhauls, including corrective blade bending. “Well, it’s a twin so I got a spare!”

Lot of good that will do when that blade hits you in the head...

Paul


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