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sreyoB yrraL
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Re: Jetblue Announces Ab Initio Program [Re: Ralph Jones]
      #422683 - 03/09/16 10:45 AM

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I want the PIC to have more hours on fire than I have on actual instruments <g>.



Well, we're going to have to go back to less reliable airliners, then. They just don't catch on fire very often anymore...


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Randy Sohn
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Re: Jetblue Announces Ab Initio Program [Re: sreyoB yrraL]
      #422694 - 03/09/16 02:20 PM

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going to have to go back to less reliable airliners, then. They just don't catch on fire very often




Concur!!! (But batteries do)

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Mase Taylor
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Re: Jetblue Announces Ab Initio Program [Re: sreyoB yrraL]
      #422695 - 03/09/16 02:52 PM

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Quote:

I want the PIC to have more hours on fire than I have on actual instruments <g>.



Well, we're going to have to go back to less reliable airliners, then. They just don't catch on fire very often anymore...




I think his point was that he wants them to have the fires before they get to the airliners...

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Edited by Mase Taylor (03/09/16 02:52 PM)


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Ralph Jones
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Re: Jetblue Announces Ab Initio Program [Re: Mase Taylor]
      #422696 - 03/09/16 04:27 PM

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I think his point was that he wants them to have the fires before they get to the airliners...



Exactamundo <g>.

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Terry Carraway
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Re: Jetblue Announces Ab Initio Program [Re: Mase Taylor]
      #422700 - 03/09/16 07:05 PM

Reading the link on the program, it looks like hiring is automatic.

4 years and 1500 hours.

But, as I have said before, these programs scare me, as they teach to fly like an airline pilot from hour 1. And sometimes you REALLY want someone how really knows how to FLY the aircraft.

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Ralph Jones
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Re: Jetblue Announces Ab Initio Program [Re: Terry Carraway]
      #422701 - 03/09/16 07:30 PM

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they teach to fly like an airline pilot from hour 1



Do they do anything in the way of akro and upset training?

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John O'Shaughnessy [FCM]
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Re: Jetblue Announces Ab Initio Program [Re: Terry Carraway]
      #422733 - 03/10/16 11:52 PM

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But, as I have said before, these programs scare me, as they teach to fly like an airline pilot from hour 1. And sometimes you REALLY want someone how really knows how to FLY the aircraft.




Valid points.

Doesn't the industry have a few decades of experience with ab initio programs by now? I would think there must be enough data to show if things are working or not.

In 1987 and 1988 we were in Breman, Germany setting up computer-based training for Lufthansa's training academy. At the time they had an ab initio program with training split between Bremen and Arizona.

I agree that having a little "salt" is what I would like too, but I'd be curious what the statistics show regarding the ab initio programs.


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Ralph Jones
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Re: Jetblue Announces Ab Initio Program [Re: John O'Shaughnessy [FCM]]
      #422739 - 03/11/16 10:08 AM

My soaring club had a temporary member a few years back named Petr...he was in the States on an ab initio program with LOT, and wanted to spend his non-flying time flying...;-)

Quite a good stick. Certainly a captain by now.

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