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Mike OverlyAdministrator
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Re: Windows 10 [Re: Russell Holton]
      #421079 - 01/24/16 11:53 AM

Thanks to an unrecoverable device loading issue I am now running two Win 10 installations -- one preloaded on an ASUS ultrabook I purchased after exhausting all recovery options on my previously-trusty Lenovo, and the other on the Lenovo after getting real impressed with 10, wiping the drive, and taking advantage of the free upgrade.

Thoughts:

1. The privacy concerns are real. The [Recommended] installation button is presented front-and-center, while the custom option is hanging out trailing off the text nobody reads up-and-to-the-left of the Next/Next/Next action area. Let MS herd you through express/recommended installation and you'll reveal your mother's maiden name and everything she ever whispered into your father's ear, and maybe some other ears. Click the custom option and turn just about every default off and you'll probably still be sending MS everything, but you won't feel like such a sucker.

2. You'll pick the interface right up from Win 7 or before. They've backed off the whole touchscreen thing, and you can tell it you have no plans to be poking at your screen and it will even remove a few touch screen interface options to keep it all pretty simple.

3. Win 10 is more backwardly compatible with everything I run than any version of Windows before it. Not only does Office 2003 (last good version of Word, IMO) run without a hitch, some programs that had random fatal glitches from ME on up now run like champs. DOSbox also runs fine, meaning there is not a program or game in my library dating back to the 80s that doesn't work on these machines.

4. It's fast and stable. The only way I've been able to provoke the installation on either machine is by closing the lid during the shutdown process, which results in a brief "didn't shut down correctly" pause on the next start up. It's only been two weeks, but usually I can break stuff in two days. We'll see.


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Dave Siciliano (ADS)
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Re: Windows 10 [Re: Mike Overly]
      #421087 - 01/24/16 02:27 PM

Thanks for the report Mike. I'll eventually migrate there. Appreciate the set up warnings. I'll probably do it one day when I have plenty of time to fix stuff.

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Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]
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Re: Windows 10 [Re: Mike Overly]
      #421088 - 01/24/16 02:52 PM

That's really helpful, Mike. I'll probably not due the upgrade on current (fairly long in the tooth) machines but I won't dread Win10 on new equipment.

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Russell Holton
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Re: Windows 10 [Re: Mike Overly]
      #421097 - 01/24/16 05:48 PM

Quote:

The privacy concerns are real.



Counterpoint: It's not privancy, it's analytics
Revealed! The crucial detail that Windows 10 privacy critics are missing



Quote:

Win 10 is more backwardly compatible with everything I run than any version of Windows before it.



I'm guessing you're running 32-bit Windows? Last I knew, 16-bit programs were still a no-go for 64-bit Windows. Or has that changed?


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Ray Tackett
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Windows 10 [Re: Russell Holton]
      #421100 - 01/24/16 06:20 PM

Windows 7 killed 16 bit apps and full-screen command windows. I use both. I
have stayed with XP.

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Mike OverlyAdministrator
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Re: Windows 10 [Re: Russell Holton]
      #421104 - 01/24/16 06:54 PM

Quote:

Quote:

The privacy concerns are real.



Counterpoint: It's not privancy, it's analytics
Revealed! The crucial detail that Windows 10 privacy critics are missing

Quote:

Win 10 is more backwardly compatible with everything I run than any version of Windows before it.



I'm guessing you're running 32-bit Windows? Last I knew, 16-bit programs were still a no-go for 64-bit Windows. Or has that changed?




At first I thought that article was a spoof, but apparently the guy's serious. If you read through the default things MS wants collect to enhance your experience and you're fine with it, well, fine.

I'm running 64-bit, but I haven't had any problem emulating older environments via DOSbox. Here's an article with a few strategies depending on what you're trying to run.


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Russell Holton
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Re: Windows 10 [Re: Ray Tackett]
      #421106 - 01/24/16 09:44 PM

Quote:

Windows 7 killed 16 bit apps and full-screen command windows.




Windows 7/64, yes.

Windows 7/32, I can't say as I've used full-screen command, but it will run 16-bit DOS programs that Windows 7/64 will not.


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Ray Tackett
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Windows 10 [Re: Russell Holton]
      #421107 - 01/24/16 09:53 PM

A few weeks ago, I bought a bare (no disk, no operating system) server for
cheap. Windows XP installation failed, so I tried the current Ubuntu
server. It's command line only, which doesn't bother me. I had Ubuntu
installed, including Windows file shares via Samba, in twenty minutes. That
is roughly sixty times faster than installing Windows and getting it the way
I want it.

Bias disclosure: You hear that from someone who is equally at home on
Windows and Unix.

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Ray,

Owner, Lake Wood Be Gone

Turning quality lumber into sawdust and noise since 2013.


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Russell Holton
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Re: Windows 10 [Re: Ray Tackett]
      #421112 - 01/25/16 01:59 AM

Quote:

Windows XP installation failed,



It may have had a chipset that Windows XP didn't know how to run. That's one problem with new machines - you can't get drivers for an obsolete OS.


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Ray Tackett
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Windows 10 [Re: Russell Holton]
      #421114 - 01/25/16 06:40 AM

No doubt. I got sucked in by misunderstanding the CPU type. It read and was
priced as if it was an ancient(!) Pentium.

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Owner, Lake Wood Be Gone

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