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Mase Taylor
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Disney Wants Drones...
      #421063 - 01/24/16 02:04 AM

in Their Own No-Fly Zone

"Florida pilots know the rule well — you better steer clear of Disney’s Magic Kingdom, or else. It has been a no-fly zone for over a decade – a luxury afforded to none of the other 400 theme parks in the United States, and a point of contention lingering over “The Happiest Place on Earth.

But now Disney is asking the government for an exemption to the no-fly restrictions so that it can launch flocks of drones over Disney World and Disneyland, a move that has resurfaced frustrations and a debate in the aviation world over the merits of the no-fly zone."

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Ralph Jones
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Re: Disney Wants Drones... [Re: Mase Taylor]
      #421072 - 01/24/16 08:25 AM

There's a bit of a story behind that. The parks used to get a lot of banner towing and sightseeing rides, and didn't much mind. But then some tension arose when evangelical organizations began using banner towing to express opposition to Disney's unofficial annual Gay Days...and 9/11 gave Disney the political cover to get a no-fly zone.

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Reams Goodloe
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Re: Disney Wants Drones... [Re: Ralph Jones]
      #421193 - 01/26/16 01:42 PM

Too bad, Disney.... live by the sword, die by the sword....

- Reams-


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Stephanie Belser
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Re: Disney Wants Drones... [Re: Mase Taylor]
      #421196 - 01/26/16 02:18 PM

Hizzoner Da Mare, Jr. tried to get that for Chicago, must have griped that corru^H^H^H^H^H worthy public servant to see that Disney got one.

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Mase Taylor
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Re: Disney Wants Drones... [Re: Stephanie Belser]
      #421200 - 01/26/16 02:44 PM

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Hizzoner Da Mare, Jr. tried to get that for Chicago, must have griped that corru^H^H^H^H^H worthy public servant to see that Disney got one.




Instead, he just shut down Meigs.

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Stephanie Belser-2
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Re: Disney Wants Drones... [Re: Mase Taylor]
      #421219 - 01/26/16 09:51 PM

Quote:

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Hizzoner Da Mare, Jr. tried to get that for Chicago, must have griped that corru^H^H^H^H^H worthy public servant to see that Disney got one.




Instead, he just shut down Meigs.




Mike'd kick me off for good if I said what I feel about that.

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Happy Birthday John O'Shaughnessy [FCM]
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Re: Disney Wants Drones... [Re: Mase Taylor]
      #421221 - 01/26/16 10:04 PM

Quote:

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Hizzoner Da Mare, Jr. tried to get that for Chicago, must have griped that corru^H^H^H^H^H worthy public servant to see that Disney got one.




Instead, he just shut down Meigs.





Don't get me started...


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Jeff Hartmann CIC
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Re: Disney Wants Drones... [Re: Mase Taylor]
      #421241 - 01/27/16 06:59 AM

We used to fly into Meigs a lot back in the 80s. Some days our folks would walk to the office. ( Canteen Corporation was a subsidiary of Transworld Corp. ).

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Tom Charlton
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Re: Disney Wants Drones... [Re: Jeff Hartmann CIC]
      #421557 - 02/05/16 01:11 AM

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We used to fly into Meigs a lot back in the 80s. Some days our folks would walk to the office. ( Canteen Corporation was a subsidiary of Transworld Corp. ).


Hi Jeff,
Me too, back long bout 1968/9. Beach 18s and a Rice Rocket. Out’a KPKB we had a contract to fly Marbon people (subsidiary of Dupont). Chicago, Detoilet and other places round the Midwest. In decent wx Meigs was a sweet airport. Hmm . . . an overnight in Chicago usually snagged me a steak dinner on the company.

Can you imagine the ATC tower guys show’n up for work that morning? What the . . . heck?

Regards,
Tom Charlton (edited to add that . . . Amazon could deliver steaks via drones)<g>

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Edited by Tom Charlton (02/05/16 01:14 AM)


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Mase Taylor
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Re: Disney Wants Drones... [Re: Jeff Hartmann CIC]
      #421558 - 02/05/16 01:23 AM

In the 70's, OZ flew ORD-SPI. One of our greatest routes, lots of politicians, lots of traffic, (apparently) lots of money.

Then, some start-up decided to fly to SPI from Meigs. OZ retaliated. We got some twin Otters, got some 4-foot flight attendants, put some staff including my friend Jim Bubash at Meigs, and ran head-to-head.

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Jeff Hartmann CIC
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Re: Disney Wants Drones... [Re: Mase Taylor]
      #421562 - 02/05/16 08:00 AM

Mase , the parent company for both of us was TransWorld Corp. . The airline was spun off when I went to work there in 84 . When we were using Meigs there was a commuter Trans World Express that operated there. We wore the same ties....

Tom, I'm sure you had days like we did, where there was freezing rain or snow heading toward Meigs, and they had no hangars, or at that time decide equipment. ( call the guys, and tell them we went to Midway !)

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Ralph Jones
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Re: Disney Wants Drones... [Re: Mase Taylor]
      #421565 - 02/05/16 09:51 AM

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We got some twin Otters, got some 4-foot flight attendants




I remember a company that did that with deHavilland Doves, in Ohio I think.

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Ralph Jones
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Re: Disney Wants Drones... [Re: Jeff Hartmann CIC]
      #421569 - 02/05/16 09:57 AM

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Canteen Corporation




Eewww...That outfit was supposed to keep me in coffee and food through several years of graveyard shifts in the Eighties. Our feelings about it were -- ummm -- deeply felt <g>.

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Tom Charlton
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Re: Disney Wants Drones... [Re: Jeff Hartmann CIC]
      #421596 - 02/06/16 01:31 AM

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Tom, I'm sure you had days like we did, where there was freezing rain or snow heading toward Meigs, and they had no hangars, or at that time decide equipment. ( call the guys, and tell them we went to Midway !)


Hi Jeff,
I recall that in marginal WX we’d shoot approach to KMDW then scoot on over 8 nm to Meigs Field. Had to be legit VFR under the crud X-ing over. Think I was probably make’n bout a buck-two-ninety-five an hour but reaped a ton of salt.

Regards,
Tom Charlton

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Jeff Hartmann CIC
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Re: Disney Wants Drones... [Re: Tom Charlton]
      #421598 - 02/06/16 06:07 AM

Yup, only once that I recall, 1500 foot ceiling...(?). Also once, an approach to Gary, then up the shoreline.

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Happy Birthday John O'Shaughnessy [FCM]
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Re: Disney Wants Drones... [Re: Tom Charlton]
      #421631 - 02/06/16 10:17 PM

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I recall that in marginal WX we’d shoot approach to KMDW then scoot on over 8 nm to Meigs Field. Had to be legit VFR under the crud X-ing over.




Yep - our club members would do that, if required. Of course, the pace of a Cessna single was probably a bit easier/slower that what you were flying.


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