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Russell Holton
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Re: DRM in light bulbs [Re: Jim Bell]
      #419342 - 12/15/15 10:46 PM

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I also disable WiFi on the iPhone when out, not because of the possible IP spoofing issue, but discovered it was connecting to anything that was open (like my friggin' supermarket in-store WiFi!). Thanks, but no ;-)




Dare I mention Project Fi? <g>


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Jim Bell
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Re: DRM in light bulbs [Re: Russell Holton]
      #419343 - 12/15/15 10:51 PM

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I also disable WiFi on the iPhone when out, not because of the possible IP spoofing issue, but discovered it was connecting to anything that was open (like my friggin' supermarket in-store WiFi!). Thanks, but no ;-)




Dare I mention Project Fi? <g>




... and deliver us from evil, for Google is the... ;-)

jb


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Jim Bell
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Re: DRM in light bulbs [Re: Russell Holton]
      #419344 - 12/15/15 10:57 PM

BTW, I meant to write "... possible MAC address spoofing issue...".

jb


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Ralph Jones
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Re: DRM in light bulbs [Re: Jim Bell]
      #419407 - 12/17/15 09:37 AM

Well, I may have to do something about it soon...just got a popup reminder that hints darkly about "service interruptions". Looks as if they're forcing it on us.

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Jim Bell
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Re: DRM in light bulbs [Re: Ralph Jones]
      #419447 - 12/18/15 12:08 AM

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Well, I may have to do something about it soon...just got a popup reminder that hints darkly about "service interruptions". Looks as if they're forcing it on us.




Bummer. No way to do what John O. did, get your own modem?

As to the WiFi stuff here, spent way too much time trying to remember how to use the various tools I have, but the client MAC address is readable by anyone sniffing an Optimum hotspot, no surprise there.

What was a little bit of a surprise is that my Panasonic TV has its own WiFi deal going, via the VIERA deal they use for certain kinds of connectivity. Mentioned nowhere in the docs (the set is at least 5 yo), I thought it was just for physical HDMI recognition/control of like devices (like my PS3) <shrug>

I also forgot just how much un-encrypted chatter the various boxes engage in with others, out there, Avast among them ;-) Sniff sniff sniff...think I'm getting a cold <g>

jb


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Reams Goodloe
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Re: DRM in light bulbs [Re: Ralph Jones]
      #419602 - 12/22/15 12:30 AM

Ralph -
Looks like they have posted the following....

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Added 16 Dec 2015 - 10.30

We recently upgraded the software for Philips Hue to ensure the best seamless connected lighting experience for our customers. This change was made in good faith. However, we under estimated the impact this would have on a small number of customers who use lights from other brands which could not be controlled by the Philips Hue software. In view of the sentiment expressed by our customers, we have decided to reverse the software upgrade so that lights from other brands continue to work as they did before with the Philips Hue system.
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Looks like they have had second thoughts.....
It is hard to believe that such an outfit would try that tactic if it requires use of a "standards essential patent" - as it would very likely result in a loss of patent rights under the patent misuse doctrine, and further, possible unfair competition claims from competitors, and anti-trust problems with the FTC.

A thoroughly screwed up roll out plan, it would seem to me....

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Jeff Hartmann CIC
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Re: DRM in light bulbs [Re: Reams Goodloe]
      #419615 - 12/22/15 07:56 AM

They changed because of a" small number of customers " ( right )

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Ralph Jones
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Re: DRM in light bulbs [Re: Reams Goodloe]
      #419619 - 12/22/15 08:47 AM

They left out the eye rolling and the "Harrumph"...;-)

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Russell Holton
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Re: DRM in light bulbs [Re: Reams Goodloe]
      #419627 - 12/22/15 11:57 AM

Taken at face value, they may have experienced a flaw in the standard. So they fixed it by deviating from the standard - and got a surprise.

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Re: DRM in light bulbs [Re: Russell Holton]
      #419642 - 12/22/15 04:32 PM

New Coke....

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