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Ralph Jones
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Re: Mooney [Re: Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]]
      #387536 - 03/05/14 05:08 PM

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gear handle, or Johnson Bar, locks forward into the bottom of the instrument panel for the down position.



The tricky part was the very end of the extension. The end of the bar seated into a recess in the panel, then a sliding collar on the end of the bar had to be slid up to latch it in place. Your arm would be extended straight forward, and your fist had to apply a substantial vertical force at right angles to the arm -- not something your joints are designed for.

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Joe Budge (W29)
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Re: Mooney [Re: Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]]
      #387540 - 03/05/14 07:17 PM

Very well could be, Scott. All I really know about Mooneys I learned reading "Bax Seat"!

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Joe


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Andy Alson (HPN/NY)
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Mooney [Re: Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]]
      #387552 - 03/06/14 08:15 AM

The 1989 Aviation Consumer Used Aircraft Guide says"

Early Mooneys had manually-operated landing gear. electric gear becaqme
available in 1966, and standard in 1969.

Just another data point.

Andy


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Phil Hecksel
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Re: Mooney [Re: Ralph Jones]
      #406602 - 03/25/15 10:08 PM

Quote:

Quote:

gear handle, or Johnson Bar, locks forward into the bottom of the instrument panel for the down position.



The tricky part was the very end of the extension. The end of the bar seated into a recess in the panel, then a sliding collar on the end of the bar had to be slid up to latch it in place. Your arm would be extended straight forward, and your fist had to apply a substantial vertical force at right angles to the arm -- not something your joints are designed for.



PFFTTTT

There was one and only one trick to the manual gear... ok maybe two

The gear was grabbed "backwards" with your hand under the gear and thumb aimed to the tail. With that, it was one smooth motion.

2nd lesser trick was you did not stop in the process, if you stopped the momentum, you were done.

Phil... with a few thousand swings of the Mooney johnson bar :)


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Ralph Jones
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Re: Mooney [Re: Phil Hecksel]
      #406603 - 03/25/15 10:31 PM

Yeah, I remember the reverse-grip trick, but it was still a challenge to slide the collar up into its lock. But then, I didn't fly it that much.

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Jeff Hartmann CIC
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Re: Mooney [Re: Ralph Jones]
      #406680 - 03/26/15 06:51 PM

Long ago ( I hate saying that ) I flew a guy from OPF to EYW in a Mooney M 20 that had fixed gear. I think most were later converted, haven't seen one since (1969).

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Phil Hecksel
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Re: Mooney [Re: Ralph Jones]
      #406689 - 03/26/15 08:09 PM

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Yeah, I remember the reverse-grip trick, but it was still a challenge to slide the collar up into its lock. But then, I didn't fly it that much.




Then it wasn't properly adjusted.


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Ralph Jones
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Re: Mooney [Re: Phil Hecksel]
      #406702 - 03/26/15 09:31 PM

That wouldn't surprise me...;-)

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B. Butler (Oregonian)
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Re: Mooney [Re: Jeff Hartmann CIC]
      #407901 - 04/23/15 04:07 PM

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Mooney M 20 that had fixed gear.




Made me dig out my first log book:

9/10/65 Mooney "Master" Grand Island NE to Columbine, CO 2+45

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Kcid LlirreM
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Re: Mooney [Re: B. Butler (Oregonian)]
      #411325 - 07/01/15 09:20 AM

Local Mooney had the nose gear collapse while taxing to a shop. Turns out there was prior damage probably from a towing job that turned the gear beyond its limits. Totaled the Mooney

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