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Ward Miller POU-NY
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FAA hiring changes
      #400252 - 12/03/14 05:52 PM

An article posted by Flying yesterday:

FAA hiring changes could mean best ATC candidates are passed over.

This year, the Federal Aviation Administration changed the way it hires air
traffic controllers, moving from the traditional interview process and
experience questionnaire in favor of what is calls a "biographical
assessment." The FAA says the bio-data assessment measures general and
ATC-specific work experience and was implemented to streamline the hiring
process, however several programs say the questionnaire asks irrelevant
questions that leave many qualified candidates without a job.

http://www.flyingmag.com/news/faa-rejecting-best-controllers

The readers' comments at the end of the article are particularly interesting.
Can't the FAA do ANYTHING right?


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Mase Taylor
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Re: FAA hiring changes [Re: Ward Miller POU-NY]
      #400255 - 12/03/14 06:30 PM

I think this is a "diversity" effort and perhaps they no longer are giving priority to folks who have been to ATC school?

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Ward Miller POU-NY
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FAA hiring changes [Re: Mase Taylor]
      #400265 - 12/03/14 09:33 PM

Mase, like I said, the Readers' Comments are well worth reading.

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Scott Dunham (RDU)
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Re: FAA hiring changes [Re: Ward Miller POU-NY]
      #400274 - 12/03/14 10:39 PM

While this website is more than a little scurrilous in places, there is some good information mixed in with the scurrility...

I don't know anyone who either understands the new plan or thinks it's a good idea.


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Richard Duxbury (Dux)
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Re: FAA hiring changes [Re: Ward Miller POU-NY]
      #400409 - 12/06/14 10:35 PM

Well the simple demographics of employees with the FAA or for many airlines, spells a vast need for new people. A LOT of new people.

This is a USA and world wide problem for sure.

So we will hire thousands of aviation people with limited experience.

Retirements are coming at record rates.

Regards,

Dux -retired in Tucson


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Russell Holton
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Re: FAA hiring changes [Re: Richard Duxbury (Dux)]
      #400420 - 12/07/14 04:22 AM

I don't think the issue is the hiring of people with limited background - it's the rejection of people who are experienced. That's not something you'd expect if you're trying to build up.

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Scott Dunham (RDU)
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Re: FAA hiring changes [Re: Russell Holton]
      #400443 - 12/07/14 05:15 PM

It's both - hiring people who don't have any apparent aptitude for the job is a horrendous waste of time and training resources, and blowing off CTI grads because of secretively identified personal characteristics is nonsense. This kind of stuff can do years worth of damage.

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Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]
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Re: FAA hiring changes [Re: Scott Dunham (RDU)]
      #400452 - 12/07/14 08:11 PM

Quote:

It's both - hiring people who don't have any apparent aptitude for the job is a horrendous waste of time and training resources, and blowing off CTI grads because of secretively identified personal characteristics is nonsense. This kind of stuff can do years worth of damage.




Scott -- Some rejected applicant, with experience or a job-related education, will bring an EEO claim and force FAA to disclose its criteria in discovery. Should make for interesting reading. Then again, some CTI institution should make a FOIA request and see what gets spit out.


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Bill Bridges - 9S1
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Re: FAA hiring changes [Re: Scott Dunham (RDU)]
      #400462 - 12/07/14 10:58 PM

Quote:

It's both - hiring people who don't have any apparent aptitude for the job is a horrendous waste of time and training resources, and blowing off CTI grads because of secretively identified personal characteristics is nonsense. This kind of stuff can do years worth of damage.




Scott,

Does this new process effect military controllers also? With their experience and veteran's preference it seems that it would be difficult for the FAA to hire anyone ahead of the military controllers.

the other bill


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