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Mase Taylor
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Reged: 04/29/04
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Illegal Drone Ops May Risk Your Certificate
      #397836 - 10/15/14 08:15 PM

At least, according to this FORBES ARTICLE.

"In addition, drone pilots who hold airmen certificates are at particular risk, especially if they fly manned aircraft for a living. According to the new guidance: “For a deliberate, egregious violation by a certificate holder, regardless of whether the certificate holder is exercising the privileges of the certificate in connection with the violations associated with a UAS operation, certificate action, may be appropriate. Such certificate action may be in addition to a civil penalty.” This means that a model aircraft operator may put his professional license at risk – even though no license is required to fly a model aircraft – if the FAA decides that his or her conduct is egregious enough."

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Bruce Gorrell [EQY]
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Reged: 04/29/04
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Re: Illegal Drone Ops May Risk Your Certificate [Re: Mase Taylor]
      #397839 - 10/15/14 08:56 PM

A violation of what regulation?

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Scott Dunham (RDU)
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Loc: Chapel Hill, NC
Re: Illegal Drone Ops May Risk Your Certificate [Re: Bruce Gorrell [EQY]]
      #397840 - 10/15/14 09:16 PM

>> what regulation?

Excellent question. FAA keeps claiming that they have grounds to violate drone operators, but they've already been shot down in flames by one ALJ, and still haven't put out any official rulemaking attempts despite knowing that drones were coming for at least 10 years.

So heck, if you can't get around to putting out any applicable regulations, just bluster a lot and pretend you have.


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Richard Duxbury (Dux)
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Re: Illegal Drone Ops May Risk Your Certificate [Re: Scott Dunham (RDU)]
      #397843 - 10/15/14 10:06 PM

Hi Scott

Well, it's refreshing to have some insight from the senior ATC (unofficial -and just personal observations) section of the NTSB about this FAA problem with drone operations.

In defense of the FAA, ATC safety folks, they are working hard to find out a set of rules and regulations that could control this new (well not so new) stuff.

My observation is that the NTSB and other government people are working hard on this problem, which includes the DOD and many State concerns.

You should write a article -but of course, you cannot with the NTSB Board looking at the publications.

Regards,

Dux


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Ward Miller POU-NY
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Illegal Drone Ops May Risk Your Certificate [Re: Scott Dunham (RDU)]
      #397849 - 10/16/14 06:07 AM

Scott, earlier this week the local power company (gas & electric) said, in
local newspaper, they were testing a small drone to use for inspecting poles
and wires.

The next day an FAA spokesman said they could not do that. Needed FAA
approval for using drones commercially. Said they had 60 applications for
such usage and had approved only 4 of them -- movie companies in remote
locations.


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Ralph Jones
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Re: Illegal Drone Ops May Risk Your Certificate [Re: Ward Miller POU-NY]
      #397853 - 10/16/14 09:34 AM

Quote:

had approved only 4 of them -- movie companies in remote locations.




-You can't fly that.
-But we're from Hollywood. Would you like to meet Jennifer Lawrence?
-OK.

<g>

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Russell Holton
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Re: Illegal Drone Ops May Risk Your Certificate [Re: Mase Taylor]
      #397859 - 10/16/14 02:25 PM

OTOH, what should happen to someone who has a certificate and flies a drone in a way that endangers aircraft? Such as in a active airway without any coordination?

I don't see the statement as something inherently wrong - more of a question of what situations will they do that in.


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Reams Goodloe
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Loc: Kent, Washington
Re: Illegal Drone Ops May Risk Your Certificate [Re: Ward Miller POU-NY]
      #397860 - 10/16/14 02:58 PM

>>The next day an FAA spokesman said they could not do that. Needed FAA approval for using drones commercially. Said they had 60 applications for such usage and had approved only 4 of them -- movie companies in remote locations. <<<

OK, please tell me the specific section of the Code of Federal Regulations (CFR's) which requires submittal to the FAA, and approval by the FAA, for such operations.....

- Reams -


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Ward Miller POU-NY
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Illegal Drone Ops May Risk Your Certificate [Re: Reams Goodloe]
      #397865 - 10/16/14 05:51 PM

>> ...please tell me the specific section.... <<

Well, it's....ah, you see....according to....ahem....do you have any other
questions?


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Mase Taylor
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Re: Illegal Drone Ops May Risk Your Certificate [Re: Ward Miller POU-NY]
      #397874 - 10/16/14 09:25 PM

Quote:

Scott, earlier this week the local power company (gas & electric) said, in local newspaper, they were testing a small drone to use for inspecting poles
and wires. The next day an FAA spokesman Said they had 60 applications for usage and had approved only 4 of them -- movie companies in remote locations.




The power company needs to hire the movie company to take movies of their power lines and poles <G>.

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