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Mac Tichenor (DAL)
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Re: Citation II info [Re: Tom Charlton]
      #391539 - 06/02/14 11:58 PM

Hi Tom. In this case, the fleet was hit with the dreaded "too much debt and not enough cash flow" plague, incubated by Avantair.

I guess it's to be expected that working through the mess would take over a year now (they had a bankruptcy auction in January, but apparently the aircraft were not part of it).

Mac


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Mac Tichenor (DAL)
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Re: Citation II info [Re: Dave Siciliano (ADS)]
      #392401 - 06/18/14 10:00 PM Attachment (198 downloads)

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Got a POH and some training materials on the CII.




Dave - just finishing up at Simcom, these fellas were across the hall doing CJ training, and I couldn't help but notice something.

Just want to make sure you're going into this with your eyes open <G>

Mac



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Dave Siciliano (ADS)
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Re: Citation II info [Re: Mac Tichenor (DAL)]
      #392405 - 06/18/14 10:44 PM

Ha! They look bushed.
Just set up a fimiliarization ride so I can see how the II flies before I go on vacation ;).


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Jeff Hartmann CIC
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Reged: 05/18/04
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Re: Citation II info [Re: Dave Siciliano (ADS)]
      #392913 - 06/27/14 02:12 PM

I couldn't find the ramp fee post, but since you are here...Landmark at ROA got us for 325.00 today for a King Air 350. I was in GSO yesterday, they bought Atlantic Aero, so now there is another all Landmark airport.

Makes Signature look good!

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Jeff

nothing clever to say right now...


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Reams Goodloe
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Reged: 05/07/04
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Re: Citation II info [Re: Jeff Hartmann CIC]
      #392962 - 06/28/14 01:38 AM

>>325.00 today for a King Air 350.<<

Gotta be a mistake. Surely it is$350 for a 350....
Dollar a point, eh....

- Reams-


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Jeff Hartmann CIC
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Re: Citation II info [Re: Reams Goodloe]
      #392965 - 06/28/14 08:14 AM

We didn't have room for fuel, but if we did..We could have bought 110 gallons at the reasonable price of 7.25/gallon!

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Dave Siciliano (ADS)
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Re: Citation II info [Re: Jeff Hartmann CIC]
      #392973 - 06/28/14 10:34 AM

Thanks. I still am thankful for your help on that last year. Very distasteful experience for me. Had a similar case going into Fayetteville, NC and just landed at Lumberton instead.
Going into Asheville in a couple weeks and they did negotiate a bit with me which opened me up to going there instead of Greenville, SC and driving up.

You're bringing up painful thoughts if what I'll deal with in a Citation. I sure don't mind doing business with an FBO, but several hundred dollars to stay overnight on the ramp after buying a meaningful amount of fuel really bugs me. It's more than I pay for a nice hotel at times.


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B. Butler (Oregonian)
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Re: Citation II info [Re: Dave Siciliano (ADS)]
      #393286 - 07/03/14 11:13 PM

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Very distasteful experience for me. Had a similar case going into Fayetteville, NC and just landed at Lumberton instead.




Since moving to Oregon, we have used Kaiser at OAK when going to the Bay Area. This week we switched to Hayward (APP Jet Center), just six miles down the BART, gas is a dollar less ($2 if you opt for self serve; we didn't) and parking 1/3 the price and first night free. We'll be back soon.

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-Bernie Gunther


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Jeff Hartmann CIC
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Re: Citation II info [Re: Dave Siciliano (ADS)]
      #393300 - 07/04/14 08:17 AM

Yesterday, first stop was Charlotte. We came 23 minutes from Greensboro so we didn't need fuel. Wilson Air charged 60 dollars for the King Air 200 we were flying. After Landmark I thought that was a deal!

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Dave Siciliano (ADS)
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Re: Citation II info [Re: Jeff Hartmann CIC]
      #393409 - 07/05/14 09:39 PM

Passed my ATP written today. Insurance folks suggest they would like that. When I get typed in the Citation, it will be the ATP ride. Was in there all day, beginning at 8:00 this morning and finished after 8:00 tonight. At least I won't have to compute where the 727 stab settings are for awhile!

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