AVSIG: New Piper owner wwswsigarch.jpg (7236 bytes)

✈ . . . . . . ✈ . . . . . ✈ . . . . ✈ . . . ✈ . . ✈ . ✈ . . ✈ . . . ✈ . . . . ✈ . . . . . ✈ . . . . . . Touch-and-Go to our Live Forum (This is a Read-only Archive of the 2004-2017 AVSIG Forum)


AVSIG Discussion Sections >> Piper

Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | >> (show all)
Gil Buettner [KAUW]
Top Gun


Reged: 05/16/04
Posts: 2847
Loc: Gateway to the Northwoods
New Piper owner
      #363884 - 03/02/13 09:54 AM

Since no one has posted here for a year and a half, I thought I would mention that I am now the owner of a Pa-28-140 with the 160hp conversion.

I sold the Bonanza last fall to pay off some debt, but it did not cure me of the ownership disease, so in January I bought the little Cherokee for something to play with on my days off.

It has 3,000 total time and just 500 on the engine, so should provide me with lots of use at a much lower cost of operation than my V35. And at my age, I am not in a hurry to get anywhere.

--------------------
-Gil


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Ralph Jones
Top Gun


Reged: 08/31/01
Posts: 21214
Loc: 4CO2
Re: New Piper owner [Re: Gil Buettner [KAUW]]
      #363888 - 03/02/13 10:09 AM

I had one of those with the original engine eons ago, on a leaseback deal that went south when the lessee folded. It made its way through several owners, eventually winding up in New Mexico in the hands of someone who missed class on density altitude day...four fatal.

--------------------
Ralph Jones
LS-4a N49LS 6R


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Kcid LlirreM
Top Gun


Reged: 05/15/04
Posts: 4768
Loc: Chuckey, TN
Re: New Piper owner [Re: Ralph Jones]
      #363892 - 03/02/13 10:35 AM

even with 160 hp I don't think I would ever use the back seats, except on the hangar floor for guests.

AT our air park some years ago one of the owners tried to take off with 4 in the thing. Fortunately a utility pole and pond stopped them before enough altitude to kill them.


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Gil Buettner [KAUW]
Top Gun


Reged: 05/16/04
Posts: 2847
Loc: Gateway to the Northwoods
Re: New Piper owner [Re: Kcid LlirreM]
      #363895 - 03/02/13 11:14 AM

I have no need for four seats. With full fuel and my wife's and my weight up front, we still have a nice margin for luggage if we want to take a trip. And unless we are going cross country there is no need for full fuel in these airplanes.

It burns about eight gallons an hour and holds 50 gallons max. Fill it to the tabs for 38 gallons, which is more than enough for most flights.

Fortunately there are nifty apps for weight and balance that make it easy and take away any excuse for doing one before flight.

--------------------
-Gil

Edited by Gil Buettner [KCWA/KAUW] (03/02/13 11:14 AM)


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Ralph Jones
Top Gun


Reged: 08/31/01
Posts: 21214
Loc: 4CO2
Re: New Piper owner [Re: Kcid LlirreM]
      #363915 - 03/02/13 01:54 PM

Likewise...I had two small kids then.

--------------------
Ralph Jones
LS-4a N49LS 6R


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Dave Siciliano (ADS)
Top Gun


Reged: 05/17/04
Posts: 8469
Loc: ADS (Dallas, TX)
Re: New Piper owner [Re: Ralph Jones]
      #363918 - 03/02/13 02:23 PM

Nice to see you have a plane again. I took some fun trips in a flying club Cherokee years ago (g). Fond memories.

Best,

Dave

Edited by Dave Siciliano (ADS) (03/02/13 02:24 PM)


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
B. Butler (Oregonian)
Top Gun


Reged: 05/15/04
Posts: 9760
Loc: Ashland, Oregon
Re: New Piper owner [Re: Gil Buettner [KAUW]]
      #363923 - 03/02/13 03:53 PM

Quote:

I have no need for four seats.




I have one of the short Arrows, same airframe. Back seats only suitable for paraplegics.

--------------------
"Why not be a nihilist? A man has to believe in something."
-Bernie Gunther


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Ralph Jones
Top Gun


Reged: 08/31/01
Posts: 21214
Loc: 4CO2
Re: New Piper owner [Re: Dave Siciliano (ADS)]
      #363927 - 03/02/13 04:55 PM

Quote:

Nice to see you have a plane again.



Yeah, this one seats even fewer <g>.

--------------------
Ralph Jones
LS-4a N49LS 6R


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Gil Buettner [KAUW]
Top Gun


Reged: 05/16/04
Posts: 2847
Loc: Gateway to the Northwoods
Re: New Piper owner [Re: Ralph Jones]
      #363947 - 03/02/13 08:34 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Nice to see you have a plane again.



Yeah, this one seats even fewer <g>.




I am not sure if you are refering to the Bonanza that I owned for 17 years, but it had five seats installed when I bought it, and I did do one flight with all five seats occupied by adults.

Later, I removed the fifth seat and reduced the insurance expense.

I don't expect I will ever have four adults in my little bitty Piper. And that is just fine.

--------------------
-Gil


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Ralph Jones
Top Gun


Reged: 08/31/01
Posts: 21214
Loc: 4CO2
Re: New Piper owner [Re: Gil Buettner [KAUW]]
      #363961 - 03/02/13 11:30 PM

No, I mean my present one seats an adult in every seat -- which is one <g>.

--------------------
Ralph Jones
LS-4a N49LS 6R


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | >> (show all)



Extra information
0 registered and 12 anonymous users are browsing this forum.

Moderator:  Mike Overly 

Print Topic

Forum Permissions
      You cannot start new topics
      You cannot reply to topics
      HTML is disabled
      UBBCode is enabled

Rating:
Topic views: 15566

Rate this topic

Jump to

Contact Us AVSIG

Powered by UBB.threads™ 6.5.5

Logout   Main Index    AVSIG Aviation Forum