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Ralph Jones
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More 787 trouble
      #306817 - 12/21/10 11:57 AM

According to the Seattle Times, the troubles with the 787 aren't as bad as they look... they're worse.

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Reams Goodloe
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Re: More 787 trouble [Re: Ralph Jones]
      #306823 - 12/21/10 01:43 PM

Ralph -

It would be a great plane... if they had built the fuselage out of aluminum, had used the correct fasteners the first time around, had addressed wing/body joints correctly up front, had used GE engines... had done some great electrical engineering on the power units, had built the tails in Everett instead of letting a sub do a design/build job in Italy. And, "rain in the plane" - as has been experienced thus far - isn't exactly a ringing endorsement of the level of engineering expertise brought to bear on aircraft environmental systems.

They may eventually get it all together. Their highly experienced work force in Everett is working their butts off trying to pull all the pieces together, in spite of the obstacles created by inept management going into the program. My guess is that they will eventually get all the fixes on newly built machines, and make a go of things. No telling how much scrap will end up on the parking spaces in Everett - i.e. how many get re-worked and how many get scrapped. I remember a time about 1980 or so, when I had a "Boeing badge", when all the scuttlebut amongst those with contacts in the program, that the 737 was a terrible airplane, bound to be a big money loser, etc., etc. .... all of which kinda sounds familiar....<g>

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Ralph Jones
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Re: More 787 trouble [Re: Reams Goodloe]
      #306828 - 12/21/10 03:18 PM

Quote:

And, "rain in the plane" - as has been experienced thus far - isn't exactly a ringing endorsement




The reporter couldn't resist adding a cutesy-poo touch, describing that as "piddling"...;-)

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Richard Duxbury (Dux)
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Re: More 787 trouble [Re: Ralph Jones]
      #306830 - 12/21/10 04:04 PM

Ya, the B777 program was a picture of overall coordination/cooperation and great results.

I hope that the B787 does get it's act(s) together. I used to say, "if it's not Boeing, I'm not going".

Well now just a passenger and have no problem flying Airbus or CRJ stuff -or even the old Delta MD-80s

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Stephanie Belser-2
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Re: More 787 trouble [Re: Ralph Jones]
      #306841 - 12/21/10 06:35 PM

Might be a reason why Boeing is increasing the production rate for 777s?

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