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Ralph Jones
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Those planes can fly themselves
      #297923 - 09/06/10 02:25 PM

...so says the CEO of Ryanair. So he wants to eliminate the FO...

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Russell Holton
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Re: Those planes can fly themselves [Re: Ralph Jones]
      #297942 - 09/06/10 04:13 PM

Quote:

"Let's take out the second pilot. Let the bloody computer fly it," O'Leary told Bloomberg Businessweek, adding that a flight attendant on each flight could be trained to help land a plane if something goes wrong.

"If the pilot has an emergency, he rings the bell, he calls her in," O'Leary told the magazine. "She could take over."




So what happens if we flip that around and say the FO has FA duties while in cruse? Isn't that what happens on a really small airplane?

(From a business standpoint, the question makes sense. Can't say as I like it from a safety standpoint since there's a time lag in returning to the cockpit and getting briefed on the situation.)


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Joe Budge (W29)
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Re: Those planes can fly themselves [Re: Russell Holton]
      #297944 - 09/06/10 04:26 PM

Quote:

So what happens if we flip that around and say the FO has FA duties while in cruse? Isn't that what happens on a really small airplane?




On the small plane charters I've been on the FO takes care of all the FA duties before engine start. Those consist primarily of the safety briefing and food service: "There's the tray of snacks. Pass them around when you get hungry."

On my really small airplane the captain does FA duties while in cruise. <g>

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nehoC hctiM
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Re: Those planes can fly themselves [Re: Ralph Jones]
      #298467 - 09/10/10 11:37 AM

Jay Leno said:

Pilots don't like this new idea, after all who likes to drink alone?

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Ralph Hood
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Re: Those planes can fly themselves [Re: Ralph Jones]
      #298580 - 09/11/10 08:53 PM

<<CEO of Ryanair. So he wants to eliminate the FO...>>

Ralph J--

Well, I ain't riding on any such flights. That's odd, since I have flown myself over many states and Canada all by myself. But danged if I'm gonna pay to ride on an airline with one pilot.

Ralph H

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Mase Taylor
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Re: Those planes can fly themselves [Re: Ralph Hood]
      #298581 - 09/11/10 08:57 PM

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Well, I ain't riding on any such flights. That's odd, since I have flown myself over many states and Canada all by myself. But danged if I'm gonna pay to ride on an airline with one pilot.




Relax Ralph, it ain't gonna happen in our lifetimes.

However, at some point, based upon the amazing advances we see in tech, you will see unmanned (remotely piloted, automated?) air travel. I think it is inevitable. But by that time you are just as likely to see orbital vacations and escorted lunar tours.

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Edited by Mase Taylor [L.A] (09/11/10 08:58 PM)


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nehoC hctiM
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Re: Those planes can fly themselves [Re: Mase Taylor]
      #298602 - 09/12/10 03:15 AM

There are already single pilot corporate operations.

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Sean Franklin
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Re: Those planes can fly themselves [Re: nehoC hctiM]
      #298638 - 09/12/10 02:09 PM

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There are already single pilot corporate operations.



Even airlines, sorta :-) In 2002 my daughter and one of my employees had to fly home from an event we did in Red River, NM due to school starting for them the following day. The first leg was from Taos to Albuquerque on "Rio Grande Air", flying Cessna Caravans. It was a full flight, so my employee ended up sitting next to the pilot (this BTW was the employee's first ever flight in an airplane of any sort).

Funny story about check-in, being a full flight every person and bag was being weighed, and all baggage was to be stowed in the under-belly pod. One passenger asked if she could keep her small backpack accessible as it had some reading material in it - gate agent said maybe, some of their airplanes have a "hat shelf" in the back and she would check. "Hey Glen," she says, "Is this flight the red plane or the blue plane?"

You know it's a small airline when the fleet is described that way :-)

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Kcid LlirreM
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Re: Those planes can fly themselves [Re: Joe Budge (W29)]
      #298830 - 09/15/10 11:10 AM

While living in Houston I had a friend who was an A & P for a GII operation. They took him on all international flights along with a set of spares. He was the FA on those flights.

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Kcid LlirreM
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Re: Those planes can fly themselves [Re: Ralph Jones]
      #298831 - 09/15/10 11:12 AM

Does this thread remind anybody else but me about Capt. Eddy and what he told his pilots.

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