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Cole Loftus [C89]
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Re: More logging cross country time [Re: Mark Kolber (TTA/NC)]
      #276027 - 12/14/09 11:00 PM

Sure, CFI logs x/c, never seen anything against it, and it's instruction from
t/o through landing, unlike the safety pilot time.

What have you seen "recently" "confirming the logging of approaches done by a
trainee in actual"? I've always understood that to be FAA policy, though
the regulation on instrument currency doesn't address it.


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Mark Kolber (TTA/NC)
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Re: More logging cross country time [Re: Cole Loftus [C89]]
      #276141 - 12/16/09 07:32 PM

Quote:

Sure, CFI logs x/c, never seen anything against it, and it's instruction from
t/o through landing, unlike the safety pilot time



But it doesn't involve being "sole manipulator" during that takeoff and landing, which is what the Chief Counsel seems to require (especially in that trade-off answer).

I'm not saying the CFI can't. Quire the opposite. But I am pointing out that you can't really analyze these decisions on anything other than a "that's the policy we want to support" basis.

Quote:

What have you seen "recently" "confirming the logging of approaches done by a
trainee in actual"? I've always understood that to be FAA policy, though
the regulation on instrument currency doesn't address it.



It was in Lynch's old FAQ but was still argued extensively. It was finally "ratified" officially by the Chief Counsel's office in 2008:
http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/head...20B.%20Levy.pdf

Guess it depends on one's definition of "recently."

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Cole Loftus [C89]
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Re: More logging cross country time [Re: Mark Kolber (TTA/NC)]
      #277069 - 12/28/09 05:49 PM

Well, the safety pilot's not a required crew member (the part of the reg
that allows logging of safety pilot time) for the t/o or ldg phase, just
during the hood time. "Sole manipulator" doesn't really come into the
logging of time as a safety pilot. You're right, these justifications for
logging time don't necessarily exist for an instructor sitting there, but
CFIs don't log their time under these provisions of the reg.


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