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Robert Mann [HPN-NY]
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Re: DSL woes [Re: Gary Rima - TKI]
      #141334 - 01/22/07 06:30 AM

Gary,

Do you have that issue of aggregation/degradation with FIOS?

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Gary Rima - TKI
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Re: DSL woes [Re: Robert Mann [HPN-NY]]
      #141341 - 01/22/07 07:08 AM

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Gary,

Do you have that issue of aggregation/degradation with FIOS?



Well, ultimately you have it with anything. But FIOS has one large advantage in its favor - the fiber infrastructure being laid for FIOS is all net-new infrastructure over the last year or two, and therefore is designed and engineered much better than most existing cable OR telco-copper infrastructure - and is also in a much better state of repair, obviously - which should translate to greater speeds AND greater reliability. Of course, fiber into your home is also DAMN fast. Now, will you see much of a difference on your 16Mb or higher FIOS connection than with a good cable connection like my 8Mb service here? Maybe, maybe not. With a new, fast computer, my 8Mb service basically results in websites "snapping" in within a fraction of a second when I click on a link (unless there are delays with the site itself - like Avsig often, unfortunately), so that there's already not a lot of room for improvement in that user experience. And when I download files, I'd say there's not 1 in 10 sites that can provide a feed that maxes out my 8Mb pipe here, so you wouldn't see a huge improvement there either. But "aggregation/degradation" issues can actually start within your own home, potentially. If you're doing multi-tasking web access things yourself, or more likely if you have multiple family members simultaneously surfing and downloading files, that's when you'll potentially start to see a big difference with FIOS. If, for example, you're downloading from a site that can feed you at 5Mb, and at the same time your wife and your son are doing the same thing, you still haven't maxed out your pipe with your own household "aggregation" where my service would be showing "aggregation" issues from within my own home with that example.

Now, having said all that - if FIOS is available in your area, and its reasonably price competitive, then its clearly the best choice in terms of both speed and reliability, I'd say.

Edited by Gary Rima - TKI (01/22/07 07:10 AM)


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Robert Mann [HPN-NY]
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Re: DSL woes [Re: Gary Rima - TKI]
      #141345 - 01/22/07 07:25 AM

Gary,

Thanks for that explanation. I currently have FIOS. I was happy when I heard it was available in my area. You're right - it is DAMN fast. I've seen 1MB/sec downloads. I haven't compared it to Cable or DSL here, because FIOS is all I've been using since I moved here. But I had both cable and DSL in Florida, and the FIOS is A LOT faster. I haven't noticed the aggregation problem with FIOS either. We have a wireless network at home and sometimes there are two machines downloading at once, but still, not a noticeable problem. With cable and DSL, I noticed it constantly.

Best part: my current FIOS service is costing me about 1/3 less than what DSL was costing me in Florida. (But everyone knows how inexpensive everything is around NY)

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Gary Rima - TKI
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Re: DSL woes [Re: Robert Mann [HPN-NY]]
      #141349 - 01/22/07 07:42 AM

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You're right - it is DAMN fast. I've seen 1MB/sec downloads.



Yep, definitely fast - although what you just said kinda proves my point. 1MB (large B - bytes) is approximately 8Mb (small b - bits). On occasion, from a good site, I get 1MB/sec downloads on my cable line here. If the site can feed you fast enough, you should actually be able to see 2MB/sec or more on FIOS - there just aren't many sites out there (and/or paths from those sites to you) that can feed you that fast. 1MB/sec ain't bad though!

Or, looking at it another way - if you're in the middle of a 1MB/sec download, there's enough bandwidth left over with FIOS for a second computer to do a completely separate 1MB/sec download simultaneously - without getting into any degradation issues whatsoever.

Edited by Gary Rima - TKI (01/22/07 12:09 PM)


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Re: DSL woes [Re: Robert Mann [HPN-NY]]
      #141351 - 01/22/07 07:57 AM

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Thanks for that explanation. I currently have FIOS.




My son in Carrollton TX has FIOS and he loves it. Of course, in his internet business he does frequent uploads, and appreciates good upload speed more than most people.

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