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Johnny Sewell [MKC]
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Mac Advice
      #139363 - 01/03/07 08:16 PM

Hi Folks,

I don't remember who all here are verifiable Mac Geeks but I have a
question. I am considering a MacBook or MacBook Pro. Do any of you have any
advice on any of the mail order outfits? I have looked at MacConnection and
MacMall.

Other advice?

Johnny


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Jim Bell
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Re: Mac Advice [Re: Johnny Sewell [MKC]]
      #139364 - 01/03/07 10:02 PM

Johnny,

Don't know about verifiable, (certifiable is more like it <g>).

My vote is Mac/PCconnection. If you have a business, you may want try the Small biz area of the PCconnection side. They sell all the Macs there too,

I've bought many boxes/parts over the years from them (3 MacBook Pro's and a mini in the last 8 months). Good service, accurate delivery estimates, and they often have some good online bundle/shipping deals.

Btw, if you can swing it, go with the MacBook Pro 17", 1GB RAM if you can. Worth the $$$ imo.


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Johnny Sewell [MKC]
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Mac Advice [Re: Jim Bell]
      #139389 - 01/04/07 05:48 AM

Hi Jim,

The 17 is just a little too big for me to carry on the airlines every week,
and my current 15 inch compaq barely has room on some airline seat back
trays. I am sure I would like the 17 though.

Now if you want to get rid of any 15's to go to 17 let me know...

Johnny


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Ed Williams [PHOG]
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Mac Advice [Re: Johnny Sewell [MKC]]
      #139396 - 01/04/07 06:26 AM

Know any Federal or University employees, students etc.? Apple gives them
discounts direct.


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Ralph Jones
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Re: Mac Advice [Re: Ed Williams [PHOG]]
      #139403 - 01/04/07 07:28 AM

Dang! When I was a college student all I got to scalp was my football ticket...;-)

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Johnny Sewell [MKC]
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Mac Advice [Re: Ed Williams [PHOG]]
      #139404 - 01/04/07 07:38 AM

Hi Ed,

Yes, I am taking a photography class at the local college and my number 4 son
is a Senior at Abilene Christian University.

Johnny


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Ed Williams [PHOG]
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Re: Mac Advice [Re: Johnny Sewell [MKC]]
      #139408 - 01/04/07 09:58 AM

Check through the college stores, then. They probably have educational discounts from Apple.

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Don Brown (ZTL-Retired)
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Re: Mac Advice [Re: Johnny Sewell [MKC]]
      #139409 - 01/04/07 10:11 AM

Quote:

Hi Ed,

Yes, I am taking a photography class at the local college and my number 4 son
is a Senior at Abilene Christian University.

Johnny




Johnny,

I've always just dealt with the Apple Store.

http://store.apple.com/

Look on the right side of the page and click on "Education" for the student discount pages.

Me -- iBook G4
My wife -- iBook G4
My daughter -- Mac Book 1.83GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
My son -- eMac (and if he gets into MIT he gets whatever he wants. <G>)

All bought at the Apple Store and obviously, I'm pleased as I can be.

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Jim Bell
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Re: Mac Advice [Re: Johnny Sewell [MKC]]
      #139420 - 01/04/07 01:00 PM

Johnny,

The 17 *is* a bit of a beast, size-wise, weight-wise, heat-wise on the knees too. Sure is pretty though.

>>Now if you want to get rid of any 15's to go to 17 let me know...<<

Ahh, yeah, I'll do that, soon as I explain it wasn't really Santa <G>.


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Johnny Sewell [MKC]
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Mac Advice [Re: Don Brown (ZTL-Retired)]
      #139425 - 01/04/07 01:34 PM

Hi Don,

Retirement! You and Deehan. I saw Mike about a year ago at HPN. He was
flying one of those dwarf or fake Gulfstreams.

Thanks for all the advice. I knew there would be some half hearted Mac
followers around here somewhere...<g>

Johnny


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Johnny Sewell [MKC]
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Mac Advice [Re: Ed Williams [PHOG]]
      #139426 - 01/04/07 01:34 PM

Hello Ed,

Yes, the college stores have it but the local Apple Store will honor the
education pricing too.

Thanks for the help.

Johnny


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Don Brown (ZTL-Retired)
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Re: Mac Advice [Re: Johnny Sewell [MKC]]
      #139473 - 01/04/07 06:54 PM

Quote:

Hi Don,

Retirement! You and Deehan. I saw Mike about a year ago at HPN. He was
flying one of those dwarf or fake Gulfstreams.




Reckon he can get any crustier ? <G>

Quote:

Thanks for all the advice. I knew there would be some half hearted Mac followers around here somewhere...<g>




Well, we don't want to make too big a fuss. Otherwise the smart guys might catch on. <G>

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Corl Leach [SMF/LHM]
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Re: Mac Advice [Re: Johnny Sewell [MKC]]
      #139551 - 01/05/07 12:55 PM

If you'd be happy with the previous generation take a look at the Apple refurb offerings. The same warranty as new but a lot less expensive, and usually even better than the education discounts.
Apple Refurb Products

//Corl

Home of the Mac Menagarie:

iMac Intel Core Duo
iMac G5 (2.0 ghz)
iMac G5 (1.8 ghz)
iBook G4 (12")
iBook G3 (12") (x2)
iMac G3 (x2)
eMac
Powerbook 160
MacPlus
Mac 512ke

(I really need to clean out my garage, huh?!)


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Jim Bell
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Re: Mac Advice [Re: Corl Leach [SMF/LHM]]
      #139732 - 01/07/07 12:08 PM

Corl,

What, no SE30? Shame on you <G>.


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Jerry Kurata [KLVK]
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Re: Mac Advice [Re: Corl Leach [SMF/LHM]]
      #139764 - 01/07/07 04:28 PM

Hey another Mac Plus owner!!! I still have mine and the big old 10 MB drive that fits under it. Mine also has the "programmer switch"!!

jerry


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Jim Bell
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Re: Mac Advice [Re: Jerry Kurata [KLVK]]
      #139801 - 01/08/07 01:53 AM

Jerry,

>>Mine also has the "programmer switch"!!<<

I think the SE30 has it too. A mighty 20MB drive, and *8* MB RAM <G>. Still worked, last time I booted it, but somehow the Radius Color Pivot monitor went missing in some move or another ;-)


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Larry Olson
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Re: Mac Advice [Re: Johnny Sewell [MKC]]
      #139848 - 01/08/07 08:55 AM

Johnny,

Seems like most of the Apple dealers rarely give much more of a deal than just buying from Apple.

I've had very good luck with their refurb units. Go to store.apple.com and scroll down on the right to the red SAVE tag. There's a 15in MacBook Pro for $1350 which has the same warranty as a new one. I don't think the ed disc are any better.

Also, there's a strong thought to get the extended warranty (something I never do, except for the Mac). It not only gives you the hardware warranty, but you can call for tech support anytime, and they are pretty helpful (better than most other computer support).

I'm currently using a 15in PB G4, which I bought that way. Great machine. My partner has one, too. We tried the 17 and found it just too awkward for travel and it's a lot more money. We both have desk monitors for home/office use that work very well. (you can set up a dual monitor, if you want).

I've got several Macs (some for my print shop), just bought a Intel IMac 20, which is a lot of machine for the $ and will probably go the MacBook Pro 15 next year.

Also have a few PCs, not nearly the quality or fun.

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Scott Perdue (50F)
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Re: Mac Advice [Re: Johnny Sewell [MKC]]
      #139853 - 01/08/07 09:19 AM

Jonny-

I second what Larry is saying about buying from Apple... I've always bought directly from them (resellers dont' give much of a margin)... plus the refurb units are great!

scott

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Corl Leach [SMF/LHM]
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Re: Mac Advice [Re: Jim Bell]
      #139878 - 01/08/07 12:52 PM

Quote:

Corl,

What, no SE30? Shame on you <G>.




I just listed what I still have on hand. I left out the platforms that I used but sold when upgrading. Let's see, along the way were ...

Performa 6200, PowerMac 7300, PowerBook 1400c, PowerBook 3400c, iMac DV 400 (strawberry), iMac 400 (indigo), iMac 600 (graphite) plus a couple others I can't specifically recall model numbers for.

... but alas, you're right, no SE30!


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Jerry Kurata [KLVK]
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Re: Mac Advice [Re: Jim Bell]
      #139910 - 01/08/07 06:28 PM

Quote:

Jerry,

>>Mine also has the "programmer switch"!!<<

I think the SE30 has it too. A mighty 20MB drive, and *8* MB RAM <G>. Still worked, last time I booted it, but somehow the Radius Color Pivot monitor went missing in some move or another ;-)




Whoa color monitor. That is too high tech for me.


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Jim Bell
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Re: Mac Advice [Re: Corl Leach [SMF/LHM]]
      #139915 - 01/08/07 09:50 PM

Corl,

I recall a Quadra 650 and some PB's, some others along the way too. Guess we sorta helped Jobs and the Woz to their current economic positions ;-)


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Jim Bell
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Re: Mac Advice [Re: Jerry Kurata [KLVK]]
      #139916 - 01/08/07 09:59 PM

Jerry,

The Radius Pivot was actually kinda cool...you'd physically turn it on its stand to go from landscape to portrait (or vice versa), in stunning 8 bit color <G>. Cost a small fortune, too.


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Don Brown (ZTL-Retired)
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Re: Mac Advice [Re: Jim Bell]
      #139920 - 01/09/07 01:35 AM

Quote:

Jerry,

The Radius Pivot was actually kinda cool...you'd physically turn it on its stand to go from landscape to portrait (or vice versa), in stunning 8 bit color <G>. Cost a small fortune, too.




I remember those. It was cool. Sure cut down on the scrolling when reading and writing.

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Ralph Jones
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Re: Mac Advice [Re: Jim Bell]
      #139933 - 01/09/07 05:36 AM

The idea has possibilities as a flight sim display...room for both outside and panel windows.

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Glenna Hall [KFHR]
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Re: Mac Advice [Re: Ed Williams [PHOG]]
      #140268 - 01/12/07 05:28 PM

Even state employees. I'm considering a MacBook, too.

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Ed Williams [PHOG]
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Mac Advice [Re: Glenna Hall [KFHR]]
      #140272 - 01/12/07 06:36 PM

You have a Trinidad at Galvin, n'est ce pas? I probably saw it being
pulled out while I was loading up to fly home.

Ed


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Johnny Sewell [MKC]
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Re: Mac Advice [Re: Ed Williams [PHOG]]
      #140919 - 01/18/07 08:56 PM

Hello Ed,

I am taking a Digital Photography credit class at the local junior college. So I bought the MacBook Pro there.

Next time I get to the Bay area maybe I can get you to teach me any shortcuts on the Mac and give me a short primer on Unix. Or is that an oxymoron?

Johnny


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Johnny Sewell [MKC]
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Re: Mac Advice [Re: Larry Olson]
      #140921 - 01/18/07 09:00 PM

Thanks Larry,

I think next time I will buy a refurb from Apple. This time we had a time crunch and the guy at the bookstore was helpful in answering a lot of questions.

Johnny


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Ed Williams [PHOG]
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Mac Advice [Re: Johnny Sewell [MKC]]
      #141096 - 01/20/07 06:23 AM

Glad the purchase worked out.
Learning Unix is not something to do unless you really need it. But if
you really miss the DOS command-line (and maybe thought it was crippled and
bought 4DOS), there's maybe something in it for you.


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Ray Tackett
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Mac Advice [Re: Ed Williams [PHOG]]
      #141127 - 01/20/07 01:16 PM

Ed,

Unix is very cool once you learn how to spell it <g>. BTW I've been a
4DOS/4NT user since the early 90s. I have all the DOS commands aliased to
the Unix equivalents so I make only half as many mistakes.

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Ed Williams [PHOG]
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Mac Advice [Re: Ray Tackett]
      #141160 - 01/20/07 04:03 PM

We switched from the home-grown NLTSS (New Livermore Time Sharing System) to
Unix in the late 80's. A good fraction are now Linux.
The PC command line still seems crippled - but I just don't do that kind of
work on Windows machines, so I don't really notice.


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Jerry Kurata [KLVK]
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Re: Mac Advice [Re: Ed Williams [PHOG]]
      #141165 - 01/20/07 04:40 PM

Quote:

Glad the purchase worked out.
Learning Unix is not something to do unless you really need it. But if
you really miss the DOS command-line (and maybe thought it was crippled and
bought 4DOS), there's maybe something in it for you.




I sort of disagree with that. I find the various unix shells quite powerful and useful. I remember spending many a pleasurable hour debugging shell scripts.


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Ed Williams [PHOG]
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Mac Advice [Re: Jerry Kurata [KLVK]]
      #141177 - 01/20/07 09:59 PM

I'm not saying it's not useful. I use it every day. But it's not for
everyone.


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Johnny Sewell [MKC]
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Re: Mac Advice [Re: Ed Williams [PHOG]]
      #141291 - 01/21/07 05:20 PM

Hi Ed,

I used 4DOS and 4OS2 for a while. But that was a few years ago. I have only used the dos window a few times a month in the recent past.

Johnny


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