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sreyoB yrraL
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Re: Current thinking on deadheading in the cockpit [Re: J. Wiley]
      #132682 - 11/06/06 07:21 AM

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but you are talking about international trips, not domestic, right?




Both. We have very few international trips.


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Mat Waugh
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Re: Current thinking on deadheading in the cockpit [Re: J. Wiley]
      #133471 - 11/13/06 03:52 AM

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And too, at times even the FAA didn't know what was and was not duty time. The company for a while said that if you got 24hrs on a layover, it met the requirement for 24 in 7. The FAA hemmed and hawed for a while looking the other way until the issue was pressed and then the FAA said, "Nope.. it is not time OFF...it counts." Still some schedulers would try to talk guys into buying that stale piece of meat.




That's a POI interpretation you've got there. Push comes to shove the FAA's counsel won't support it. Relieved from duty is relieved from duty, no matter what the location. The regulations have no concept of base or domicile, they have no concept of time off. The reg. says "relieved from duty" and since that's pretty much the definition of rest you can't have it both ways. If you're complying with the rest regulations then if you get 24 hours of rest the clock resets on the 7 day restriction.

Which is where the contract comes in :-)


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Andy Dulay [PGD]
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Re: Current thinking on deadheading in the cockpit [Re: J. Wiley]
      #134632 - 11/23/06 02:39 PM

John,

At UPS it counts as the 24/7 break anywhere in the system. International or Domestic.

AD ("resting" in HNL as we type")


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