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Ralph Jones
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Re: Have you ever known "This Guy?" [Re: B. Butler (Oregonian)]
      #442036 - 08/27/17 05:25 PM

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Let's not forget Pilot Officer Catermole.



Ah yes...Ray Middleton worked on that show, and he told me the "Cattermole" Spit lost a pitot mast in the bridge shot.

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Ralph Jones
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nehoC hctiM
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Re: Have you ever known "This Guy?" [Re: Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]]
      #442042 - 08/27/17 07:06 PM

Typically, for VFR pilots, a small cross country flight with a couple of small maneuver requests along the way.
Typically there was a two leg cross country, kinda akin to what airlines do now called a Loft.
For IFR, same but typically either in actual or under the hood, with questions about holds, approaches etc plus actually flying two approaches.
Course for both, checking out their pre flight planning.
Now days, ForeFlight has made GA flying very interesting.
I've only had a few experiences with it, and with that in mind wouldn't want to actively instruct or check unless I had a bit more of it under my belt.
My CFI certificate is still active.
Renewal is via Duties and Responsibilities.
As a Captain, we are charged with review of probie FO's.
That is the qualifier.
Hoping I have answered your question.

Ps just remembered, I used the AOPA BFR form as a basis for a new written checklist for evaluations. Reviewing and having the pilot sign it, was beneficial in my mind.

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USA Today said, people over 50 are calmer.


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Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]
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Re: Have you ever known "This Guy?" [Re: nehoC hctiM]
      #442044 - 08/27/17 09:40 PM

Mitch -- Sorry for my confusing inquiry. When this guy wanted a check out as an AF pilot, and admitted to busting weather, how did you handle the checkout.

Yes, there are FAA checklists in an AC that are handy, too, for FRs.

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Randy Sohn
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Re: Have you ever known "This Guy?" [Re: Ralph Jones]
      #442047 - 08/27/17 11:55 PM

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...Ray Middleton




I sure hold Ray in the highest regard!

best, randy


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Ralph Jones
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Re: Have you ever known "This Guy?" [Re: Randy Sohn]
      #442051 - 08/28/17 07:52 AM

Ray's picture could go in a dictionary entry for "Workmanship"...

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nehoC hctiM
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Re: Have you ever known "This Guy?" [Re: Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]]
      #442057 - 08/28/17 04:23 PM

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Mitch -- Sorry for my confusing inquiry. When this guy wanted a check out as an AF pilot, and admitted to busting weather, how did you handle the checkout.

Yes, there are FAA checklists in an AC that are handy, too, for FRs.




They say memory is the first thing to go???

I remember having an in depth discussion about this topic, as it really lit my fuse.
Items including, "What happens when you break out of an overcast and there is traffic on top?
What do you do with your transponder?
Do you realize what you are doing is highly unintelligent AND dangerous?"
Wish I could remember more of the specific guy so I could look him up, but unfortunately I can't remember him other than meeting him at CCB and doing a short round trip to SMO including maneuvers.

Turning the table 360 degrees around, (Mayor Rizzo reference) how would YOU have handled such an individual?


On the original springboard, I had heard some stories over the years about guys with no FAA pilots license flying planes solo, and the FAA unable to do anything like take their licenses away, since they never had one (even student pilot) to begin with.

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Stephanie Belser
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Re: Have you ever known "This Guy?" [Re: nehoC hctiM]
      #442058 - 08/28/17 04:31 PM

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As to the original question, have you ever bumped into anyone that admitted or even bragged at breaking the FARs or rules?




Yes. It was during a job interview. The company owner interviewing me bragged about flying in the clouds at a VFR altitude when he was sure it would clear before he reached his destination.

I needed the job. But I figured that a clown who was so cavalier about such things was probably equally cavalier about worker safety and paying people. I didn't take the job.

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B. Butler (Oregonian)
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Re: Have you ever known "This Guy?" [Re: nehoC hctiM]
      #442059 - 08/28/17 05:38 PM

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I had heard some stories over the years about guys with no FAA pilots license flying planes solo, and the FAA unable to do anything like take their licenses away, since they never had one (even student pilot) to begin with.




There is a process for those cases, called referral to DOJ for criminal prosecution.

Bill (not a former FAA attorney, but I sleep with one regularly)

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"Why not be a nihilist? A man has to believe in something."
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Ray Tackett
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Have you ever known "This Guy?" [Re: Stephanie Belser]
      #442060 - 08/28/17 06:25 PM

>>> I didn't take the job.

Good move. The place where I got my CFI had an owner who cut a lot of
corners. He and a buddy of his used to preach in favor of busting minimums
on nonprecision approaches. They said it was safe to descend halfway between
MDA and field elevation.

The buddy died crashing into the reason for a stepdown fix. The wreckage was
found at exactly that elevation. Apparently, on his third try at the
approach, he lost awareness of distance to the airport. He was well within
fuel range of three ILS-equipped airports, all at lower elevations than his
destination airport. The school owner never mentioned that stunt again, but
continued to run his fleet like Happy Harry's Used Airplane Lot.

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Ray,

Owner, Lake Wood Be Gone

Turning quality lumber into sawdust and noise since 2013.


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Ralph Jones
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Re: Have you ever known "This Guy?" [Re: nehoC hctiM]
      #442061 - 08/28/17 06:37 PM

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I had heard some stories over the years about guys with no FAA pilots license flying planes solo, and the FAA unable to do anything like take their licenses away, since they never had one (even student pilot) to begin with.



IANAL, but as I understand it, it works like this: a regulatory agency like the FAA has jurisdiction only over people it has issued a license to, so flying without a license is not a violation of FAR's. However the Federal Aviation Act which creates the FAA does make it illegal.

So you don't get prosecuted by the FAA: you get prosecuted by the Justice Dept, with the FAA acting as expert witness.

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Ralph Jones
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