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Steve Woolstenhulme
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Bought a Debonair
      #129821 - 10/12/06 07:39 PM

You can never have too many airplanes, so my brother-in-law and I just purchased a 1966 C33A. I had the good fortune to go get it in Denver yesterday and fly it home to the Dallas area. http://www.bestaero.com/n9520q for pix. But don't get used to the look. We delivered it to the paint shop today!

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Tom Henderson (KOXR/SoCal)
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Re: Bought a Debonair [Re: Steve Woolstenhulme]
      #129827 - 10/12/06 09:03 PM

Sharp looking steed Steve.

Of course I'm biased -- being partners in a C33a.

Looks like it has had a lot of upgrades -- 3 bld prop, etc.

I'm sure you'll love it. Where will it be based?

-Tom H.
Ventura, CA

PS -- we are CE=28. So we were just a few planes behind you on the assembly line...

Edited by Tom Henderson (KOXR/SoCal) (10/12/06 09:06 PM)


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Tom Gresham (HDC)
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Re: Bought a Debonair [Re: Steve Woolstenhulme]
      #129832 - 10/13/06 03:03 AM

Very nice, Steve. Will you keep it or fix it up for resale?

Do you have the book "Flying the Beech Bonanza"? It's a must.

Tom


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Steve Stombaugh (IND)
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Re: Bought a Debonair [Re: Steve Woolstenhulme]
      #129839 - 10/13/06 05:38 AM

Steve, you be at NBAA? Steve

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Steve Woolstenhulme
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Re: Bought a Debonair [Re: Tom Henderson (KOXR/SoCal)]
      #129860 - 10/13/06 07:45 AM

Quote:

Looks like it has had a lot of upgrades -- 3 bld prop, etc.




They just installed a new speedslope heavy-glass windshield with a new glareshield, too. They put in a KLN90B, but we're going to sell what's in the radio rack now and and put in a new MFD with TCAS and XM, dual Garmins, S mode transponder, GMA340 audio panel, four place intercom, etc.

It was a very solid airframe with lots already done, and an adequate radio stack that would have been dazzling 10 years ago, but there's much more available today, so we're going to bite the bullet and put it in.

Quote:


Where will it be based?





We're at KGYI just 50 miles north of Dallas.


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Steve Woolstenhulme
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Re: Bought a Debonair [Re: Tom Gresham (HDC)]
      #129862 - 10/13/06 07:49 AM

Quote:

Will you keep it or fix it up for resale?




No plan to sell this one. But I've thought that about 10 other times in the past 15 years <grin>.

Quote:

Do you have the book "Flying the Beech Bonanza"?




Thanks for the reference. I'll order it today!


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Steve Woolstenhulme
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Re: Bought a Debonair [Re: Steve Stombaugh (IND)]
      #129863 - 10/13/06 07:55 AM

Quote:

Steve, you be at NBAA? Steve




Yes. I'm leaving Sunday morning to take N499EH to put on static display. I need to be in Orlando by noon Sunday. We'll have a second Lear there as well. Check out our press release (I know it's good--I wrote it! ;) at http://www.pbls.biz/pressrelease_content.asp?prid=85

We'll have our Lear fuselage in the convention center at Booth 5197. We're co-exhibiting with Stevens Aviation, with whom we're working to STC a Universal 890R three tube glass panel in the Lear. I'm also going to be spending time at the static display with this aircraft http://www.bestaero.com/n499eh/n499eh.htm


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Nigel Thompson(1D2)
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Re: Bought a Debonair [Re: Steve Woolstenhulme]
      #129892 - 10/13/06 02:23 PM

Steve, hope you have fun with it (if you keep it, and if it is your first Bonanza experience you may well do so). I bought a 1966 C33 (only 225hp) in 1991, flew about 700 hours in it and sold it in 1996. Loved it. I have owned three Bonanza's and the old C33 was the nicest handling of the lot. Even better, bought it for $45000, overhauled the engine, flew it for 700 hours and sold it for $60,000.

Flew it all over the US, including Washington DC to San Diego and back, in all sorts of weather.

Aah the memories.

Good luck with it.

NIgel.


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Steve Woolstenhulme
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Re: Bought a Debonair [Re: Nigel Thompson(1D2)]
      #129921 - 10/13/06 05:08 PM

Quote:

...if it is your first Bonanza experience you may well do so...




I've been fond of twins over the past fifteen years or so. I've owned a 310, a 421, a Travel Air, a Baron, and a 340 during that time.

But I've also owned a 172, a 150, a 182, a Warrior, and a 152. Deals come along and I just can't resist. I've never made a big profit on a plane, but I've never lost big either.

I suspect the Debonair will be in the family for a long time. It has the long range and decent speed and low fuel burn to make it a pleasure to fly around the country.


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Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]
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Bought a Debonair [Re: Steve Woolstenhulme]
      #129937 - 10/13/06 05:59 PM

Steve -- Is there sales/use tax collected on used aircraft sales in Texas?
I've found the transaction costs on aircraft to be quite a load if they
aren't held for more than a couple of years in an appreciating market.

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Scott Voigt retired controller
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Re: Bought a Debonair [Re: Steve Woolstenhulme]
      #129941 - 10/13/06 06:33 PM

Steve;

Looks like quite a find... Reminds me of the first Beech I ever flew. Belonged to a LCdr in our flying club. He was quite generous in letting me fly along and fly the aircraft <sigh>, those were the days <G>... It was a SWEET aircraft. Enjoy it...

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Scott H. Voigt
retired controller
Patrol Division
Trophy Club, Police Dept.


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Steve Woolstenhulme
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Re: Bought a Debonair [Re: Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]]
      #129949 - 10/13/06 08:04 PM

In Texas if you buy from an individual for your personal use you may qualify for the "personal use" exemption. Aircraft sales tax issues are complex, and if not carefully orchestrated, a sale can indeed be costly.

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Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]
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Bought a Debonair [Re: Steve Woolstenhulme]
      #129962 - 10/14/06 03:53 AM

Steve -- Well, at least you have some wiggle room, as we don't even have that
in NY. 8 1/4% on a couple of hundred thousand dollars starts to look like
real money.

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Steve Woolstenhulme
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Re: Bought a Debonair [Re: Steve Woolstenhulme]
      #129973 - 10/14/06 07:17 AM

Oops--not "personal use" -- that's to get out of Property Taxes. I meant "Occasional Sale" exemption.

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Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]
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Bought a Debonair [Re: Steve Woolstenhulme]
      #130000 - 10/14/06 02:22 PM

Steve -- Meaning, not a dealer?

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Steve Woolstenhulme
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Re: Bought a Debonair [Re: Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]]
      #130010 - 10/14/06 03:10 PM

Exactly... Individual selling to individual.

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Ron Koyich
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Bought a Debonair [Re: Steve Woolstenhulme]
      #130194 - 10/15/06 08:20 PM

Welcome to Beech ownership, Steve! Can't wait to see what you'll do with this
one.


Ron


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Mike McNamara - 19N (NJ)
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Re: Bought a Debonair [Re: Steve Woolstenhulme]
      #130354 - 10/17/06 10:45 AM

Looks great.

I have a 1965 Debonair, CD917. It came with the 225HP engine but I have since upgraded to 260HP & added tip tanks, avionics, etc. I will have it until I stop flying. I have been (from NJ) to Bahamas, Grand Cayman, Newfoundland, Nova Scotia, Alaska, Rocky Mountains, etc. etc. We travel alot & it is a magic carpet.

Good luck with it. I recommend the BPPP training courses, join the American Bonanza Society, & get the CDROM they sell of back magazine issues for the "tech tips" on parts & maintenance. It's searchable & invaluable.

I can go 10 hours at 160 kts on 11.5 gallons/hour. Amazing machine.


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Steve Woolstenhulme
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Re: Bought a Debonair [Re: Steve Woolstenhulme]
      #144183 - 02/19/07 04:45 PM

In case you haven't checked back, here are some photos of the Debonair as it was getting finished up at the paint shop. I now have the new radio stack in it as well: PS Engineering Intercom, GNS480, GPS496 w/XM, GTX330, JPI EDM700, etc. etc. etc.

http://www.bestaero.com/n9520q


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Larry Olson
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Re: Bought a Debonair [Re: Steve Woolstenhulme]
      #144207 - 02/20/07 12:52 AM

Steve,

Congrads. Looks like a great plane. I flew overhead twice this past week, should have stopped in to see it.

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Larryo
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Andrew Niemyer -KDLH
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Re: Bought a Debonair [Re: Steve Woolstenhulme]
      #144219 - 02/20/07 03:50 AM

Steve:
While SWMBO has made me promise to never buy another plane with either a red interior or exterior, that paint job is really, really nice! Show us some panel shots!

Best regards,
Andy


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