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Steve Stombaugh (IND)
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Re: 709 letter [Re: Mase Taylor]
      #413975 - 08/16/15 05:42 PM

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There is latitude.... normally the letter says they are to respond within 10 days, and the typically the ride should be done in 30 days. Again, it is about safety. Sometimes, if it is going to be a while, they might suggest that the certificate holder put their certificate on hold.




There is a guy on POA who had to do the ride because of a gear-up in a 310. But he was going to be out of the country. They were very accommodating on rescheduling, and he kept his certificate.


I know of one, a college student, that went back to his homeland for the summer. His timer starts once he comes back to the US.

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Gil Buettner [KAUW]
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Re: 709 letter [Re: Steve Stombaugh (IND)]
      #414034 - 08/17/15 11:10 AM

I have had two pilots come to me for remedial training prior to a 709 ride. One had crashed her Cub on a commercial flight in a stall/spin at low altitude. We did dozens of stalls in a 172 and met the inspector at a nearby airport, where she passed the ride. They were up longer than I expected.

The other had an engine failure in a 182 and landed long and went off into a cornfield. We were doing training in power off approaches and landings when he told me to forget it. It seems the FSDO did not notify him within the time window, so he did not have to take the ride. This was six or seven years ago.. I think they had 45 days to notify him, and missed it by a day or two.

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John O'Shaughnessy [FCM]
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Re: 709 letter [Re: Richard Duxbury (Dux)]
      #414046 - 08/17/15 05:50 PM

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I date myself -but I seem to recall this type of FAA check was once called a 609 ride.



Inflation.


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Steve Stombaugh (IND)
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Re: 709 letter [Re: John Gaitskill, 0A7]
      #414061 - 08/17/15 09:17 PM

Here's a lot more than any one wanted to know.....

FAA stuff


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John Gaitskill, 0A7
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Re: 709 letter [Re: Steve Stombaugh (IND)]
      #414154 - 08/20/15 10:36 PM

Thanks for that info.

I met with the pilot today. This situation began when he landed in a field after the engine quit because fuel flow in his Cessna 150 was interrupted due to a clogged vent. The emergency landing was successful without damage in a valley surrounded by mountains of western North Carolina.

After cleaning out the vent tube, checking the fuel flow and running up the engine, he taxied to a nearby road for the take off. He said a cross wind caught him and he clipped some trees, but managed to keep it flying and landed at the airstrip at his home.

The FAA apparently feels that the successful emergency landing in the field and the subsequent departure, keeping it in the air after the wingtip clipped the trees somehow casts doubt on his competence as a pilot. Unfortunately, he didn't send in an ASRS form. So he's still working on scheduling the 709 ride with the FAA sometime in the next couple of weeks. Here's the NTSB report http://dms.ntsb.gov/pubdms/search/hitlis...F8682E29232BB14 with a couple of photos.


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Jeff Hartmann CIC
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Reged: 05/18/04
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Loc: Chico,CA
Re: 709 letter [Re: John Gaitskill, 0A7]
      #414163 - 08/21/15 07:44 AM

Really surprising that the tree limb didn't take him down. That's a lot of damage.

That won't buff out....

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Jeff

nothing clever to say right now...


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Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]
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Re: 709 letter [Re: John Gaitskill, 0A7]
      #414166 - 08/21/15 09:21 AM

John -- In Alaska that'd be considered a reasonable operation.

(Yeah, the damage is pretty extensive.)


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Ralph Jones
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Reged: 08/31/01
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Re: 709 letter [Re: Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]]
      #414176 - 08/21/15 12:54 PM

As long as there's duct tape...

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Ralph Jones
LS-4a N49LS 6R


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Dave Siciliano (ADS)
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Re: 709 letter [Re: Ralph Jones]
      #414180 - 08/21/15 03:48 PM

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As long as there's duct tape...




Fairy permit required? :)


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Russell Holton
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Re: 709 letter [Re: Dave Siciliano (ADS)]
      #414181 - 08/21/15 04:26 PM

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Fairy permit required? :)




Why not? He's going to want his guardian fairy for that ferry flight. <g>


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