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Mase Taylor
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Re: OSH Tower Closing [Re: Jeff Hartmann CIC]
      #366612 - 04/09/13 12:37 AM

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Larry,

You are good!




Over the years I've learned not to challenge Yrral on the "rules." Ya gotta have the rules nailed to know that what is legal may not be safe, or what is safe may not be legal....

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Fly The Airplane As Far Into The Crash As Possible. - Bob Hoover 1922-2016 R.I.P.


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Mase Taylor
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Re: OSH Tower Closing [Re: Russell Holton]
      #366614 - 04/09/13 12:50 AM

I must confess it took me Ówhile to stop answering the phone OZARK instead of TWA, and TWA instead of AMERICAN....

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Mac Tichenor (DAL)
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Re: OSH Tower Closing [Re: sreyoB yrraL]
      #366616 - 04/09/13 01:12 AM

>>having a heck of a time saying "Cessna..." << Flightplan.com has a program through which you can use a "dot com xxxx" call sign if you file your flight plan through them. I tried it a few weeks ago in the plane I've been flying exclusively for five years. It _did_ take quite an effort to stop myself from answering with my N#. But I had even more trouble recognizing a call to my call sign. I guess it's a skill you develop, but I'm impressed that it doesn't seem to happen often to you call sign users.

On this flight, another guy on the frequency asked, "Center, what airline is dot com?" Center: "I don't know. I think they're a cargo hauler or something." The other guy: "Well, whoever they are, they must be growing fast - I hear dot com all the time lately."

Mac


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Bruce Gorrell [EQY]
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Re: OSH Tower Closing [Re: B. Butler (Oregonian)]
      #366630 - 04/09/13 11:05 AM

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He was having a heck of a time saying "Cessna..." and instead kept saying "Cactus...".




It's a common occurrence...well, maybe common is an overstatement, but it happens and the prevailing wisdom among controllers it that it's code for, "I'm a real pilot, even if I'm in this pissy little airplane. <No g>




We're "Executive Jet" domestically and "NXXXQS" internationally. It takes about 4 frequency changes and a sticky note on the panel to get it right.


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Anne Umphrey (KBED)
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Re: OSH Tower Closing [Re: sreyoB yrraL]
      #366665 - 04/09/13 05:09 PM

When I began learning to fly airplanes, I would make the call, Helicopter, er, Cessna 123.....

The tower would chuckle and say HelicopterCessna 123 yadda-yadda, etc.

They never let me forget it either, when I'd bring them cookies. Sure wish it was easy to do that now.

Anne

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Anne Umphrey (KBED)
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Re: OSH Tower Closing [Re: sreyoB yrraL]
      #366666 - 04/09/13 05:12 PM

A long time ago I gave Dave Gwinn a tour of Boston in my R22. He would talk right over the ATC communications. When I mentioned it, he said, oh, he was only hearing them if they called TWA....

I gently reminded him that I had to hear all the communications so I would know where the other aircraft in the city were.

Dave was such a fun guy to fly with. He is still missed.
Anne

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sreyoB yrraL
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Re: OSH Tower Closing [Re: Anne Umphrey (KBED)]
      #366672 - 04/09/13 06:29 PM

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The tower would chuckle and say HelicopterCessna 123 yadda-yadda, etc.



Many one of these? :)



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Jeff Hartmann CIC
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Re: OSH Tower Closing [Re: sreyoB yrraL]
      #366698 - 04/10/13 07:13 AM

Certified IFR, and all crushed..? Did any survive the crusher?

Found this at Wiki.

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Approximately 50 machines were built before Cessna ended their venture into helicopters. Most of the aircraft built were bought back and scrapped by Cessna, and the type certificate was revoked, presumably to remove any liability to Cessna for continued operation of any copies they could not retrieve. The Army Aviation Museum at Fort Rucker, Alabama has a YH-41A Seneca prototype (serial number 56-4244) as a part of its collection, although it is not currently on display.[7]





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cessna_CH-1

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Jeff

nothing clever to say right now...

Edited by Jeff Hartmann (EQY/SVH) (04/10/13 07:18 AM)


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Ralph Jones
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Re: OSH Tower Closing [Re: Jeff Hartmann CIC]
      #366713 - 04/10/13 10:50 AM

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Certified IFR, and all crushed..?



In fact, I remember reading that it was the first helo certified IFR. But that came from Cessna, so there might be some careful wordsmithing there...

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Anne Umphrey (KBED)
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Re: OSH Tower Closing [Re: sreyoB yrraL]
      #366716 - 04/10/13 11:21 AM

That is a great story of the rise and fall of Cessna's attempt to get into the helicopter market and trying to get the military interested.

Anne

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