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Terry Carraway
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Re: Berlin Airlift Foundation C-97G Flies Today! [Re: Tom Charlton]
      #444710 - 11/10/17 08:54 AM

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I've seen figures of 2-3 gallons per hour for the 4360's, depending on engine hours.


Hi Ralph,

I worked on KC-97Gs up at Pease AFB back in 1963/64. Tell ya what . . . get about a dozen of those cranked up at one time on a SAC alert and we probably didn’t have a mosquito problem for a while afterword. T’was an impressive amount of smoke.

I expect oil was brought in, not by the can, not by the barrel, but by tanker truck.

Regards,
Tom Charlton




I remember talking to the pilot of one of the civilian owned A-1 Skyraiders. He was burning 8 gallons per hour. Of oil. He carried a 55 gallon drum in the lower crew area.

My best friend through UPT had been prior enlisted, and a crew chief on a C-131 (Convair 240 piston). He commented that they would pour a LOT of 1 quart cans to fill the oil tanks.

One trip, they were at a Navy base. And a small tanker truck pulled up. And he told them, they had already been fueled. They driver said no, this was the OIL truck. Se they topped off the oils tanks, the easy way.

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Terry Carraway
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Re: Berlin Airlift Foundation C-97G Flies Today! [Re: Randy Sohn]
      #444711 - 11/10/17 08:57 AM

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Ya, Northwest flew that type aircraft with passengers for a few years (long before I joined)




Yup, they sure did, NWA had lost one in Puget Sound (IIRC, #610) after T/O from Sea-Tac (the cowl flaps switch was backwards from the Connie) and one (IIRC) between Honolulu and Seattle, the Boeing 377 Stratocruiser fleet was disposed of in 1959.

best, randy




I am pretty sure if flew in one, SEA - HNL back around 57 or so.

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Randy Sohn
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Re: Berlin Airlift Foundation C-97G Flies Today! [Re: Terry Carraway]
      #444712 - 11/10/17 09:05 AM

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small tanker truck......no, this was the OIL truck. Se they topped off the oils tanks, the easy way.




They called that thing the "bowser".

best, randy


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Ralph Jones
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Re: Berlin Airlift Foundation C-97G Flies Today! [Re: Randy Sohn]
      #444713 - 11/10/17 09:12 AM

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They called that thing the "bowser".



I think that term's used for fuel trucks too...it's named after the inventor of the gas station pump.

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Ralph Jones
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Randy Sohn
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Re: Berlin Airlift Foundation C-97G Flies Today! [Re: Terry Carraway]
      #444714 - 11/10/17 09:17 AM

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pretty sure if flew in one, SEA - HNL back around 57




Yup, Enwah had 10 of those Stratocruisers. Besides losing the two that I'd previously mentioned, they had an O-2 fire on the ground with one in (circa) 1960 or so, repaired it and I remember seeing it down in MIA once, some central american airline. Then also, IIRC, parts of one was used in creating the "Pregnant Guppy".

Flew them (C-97s) in the MN ANG, don't have a lotta time in them, couple of 1000 hours only but a nice flying airplane IMO.

best, randy


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Ray Tackett
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Berlin Airlift Foundation C-97G Flies Today! [Re: Randy Sohn]
      #444722 - 11/10/17 11:30 AM

That was one of my childhood flight dreams. NWA flight 1 originated at YIP,
and, after a lot of stops, ended in Calcutta (now Mumbai). I could almost
see myself scraping up the fare to go, but not the round trip.

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Ray,

Owner, Lake Wood Be Gone

Turning quality lumber into sawdust and noise since 2013.


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Bruce Gorrell [EQY]
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Re: Berlin Airlift Foundation C-97G Flies Today! [Re: Terry Carraway]
      #444748 - 11/10/17 09:25 PM

We average about 1.3 gallons/hr on Tinker Belle. (R2800s)

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Tom Charlton
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Re: Berlin Airlift Foundation C-97G Flies Today! [Re: Randy Sohn]
      #444758 - 11/11/17 09:22 AM

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small tanker truck......no, this was the OIL truck. Se they topped off the oils tanks, the easy way.




They called that thing the "bowser".

best, randy


Hi Randy,

Yup. I remember pulling that hose up over the wing to service the oil. Nasty job. Hard not to make a mess dripping residual oil all over every dam thing. Nasty!

And that reminds me of breathing the 115/145 fumes while refueling the under-wing tanks. Get’cha dizzy<ng>.
Ha . . . it’s no wonder I am the way I am<g>!

Regards,
Tom Charlton

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The airplane has unveiled for us the true face of the earth. Antoine de Saint-Exupéry, 1939.


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Tom Charlton
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Re: Berlin Airlift Foundation C-97G Flies Today! [Re: Ralph Jones]
      #444759 - 11/11/17 09:29 AM

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yanked the Twin Comanche out of training service after a string of fatal Vmc demo's.

In retrospect, I think that turned out to be a training problem, not an airplane problem. My instructor was a Beech 18 guy, and it went smoothly.


Hi Ralph,
Yup, I instructed with a Twinky 1969/70. Never had any problems as I recall. (Likely fading memory helps with this<g>) Also had a background with 18s. Likely helped.

Regards,
Tom Charlton

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Randy Sohn
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Re: Berlin Airlift Foundation C-97G Flies Today! [Re: Tom Charlton]
      #444760 - 11/11/17 09:50 AM

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service the oil. Nasty.......115/145




Chuckle, yup, and still recall some L/C at Goose coming out in his blue staff car, climbing up into cockpit and starting to give me holy h--- about something he said we did wrong! I guess (well, in fact I know dang well) that he prolly didn't know that he'd run into someone who just didn't llke L/Cs anyway! Anyhow, I got out'a the seat and walked up to him and got in his face with "Lookie here Col., just cuz you've been SACumcized is no GD'md reason for this MATS flight crew to be - so get the h--- outa my cockpit right NOW before you get tossed out onto the ramp, we were danged near out'a fuel so what did'ja want, us to be crash landed out on the Bay or on your stupid ramp here at Goose out'a fuel?"

best, randy


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