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Stephanie Belser
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Re: Berlin Airlift Foundation C-97G Flies Today! [Re: Andrew Niemyer -KDLH]
      #444651 - 11/08/17 02:28 PM

I hope they can keep it flying longer than the DC-7 guys did theirs.

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Russell Holton
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Re: Berlin Airlift Foundation C-97G Flies Today! [Re: Andrew Niemyer -KDLH]
      #444654 - 11/08/17 03:05 PM

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They finally got the Berlin Airlift Historical Foundation's C-97G out of Floyd Bennett today. Ready, this one is for you!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DXvVSBVUpg




Hmmmm, Looks like 4 turnin' AND burnin'. <g> (Oil, that is.)


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Randy Sohn
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Re: Berlin Airlift Foundation C-97G Flies Today! [Re: Tom Charlton]
      #444665 - 11/08/17 06:00 PM

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impressive amount of smoke........expect oil was brought in, not by the can, not by the barrel, but by tanker truck




Chuckle, we had to turn 18 blades for reduction gearing lubrication before turning ON the ignition switch on them. Can still recall telling the flight engineer on interphone when one didn't start to fire right away - "Hey engineer, turn on the switch and choke'r a little bit!"

best, randy (smart a--ed comments, chuckle)


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Jeff Hartmann CIC
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Re: Berlin Airlift Foundation C-97G Flies Today! [Re: Tom Charlton]
      #444686 - 11/09/17 10:40 AM

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I expect oil was brought in, not by the can, not by the barrel, but by tanker truck




Tom, when I was working the line in Opa Locka in the late 60s we had an oil "bowser" , a couple hundred gallon trailer with a pump and meter. Made servicing Convairs and Lockheeds etc a lot easier.

In NJ at Caldwell, now Essex County....we didn't even have gallon cans. Had to service the round motors with quarts....we put them on the radiator of the line shack in winter....otherwise it was like pouring STP!

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Ralph Jones
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Re: Berlin Airlift Foundation C-97G Flies Today! [Re: Jeff Hartmann CIC]
      #444687 - 11/09/17 10:47 AM

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when I was working the line in Opa Locka in the late 60s



Did my IR then and there, at Burnside-Ott.

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Ralph Jones
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Richard Duxbury (Dux)
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Re: Berlin Airlift Foundation C-97G Flies Today! [Re: Jeff Hartmann CIC]
      #444688 - 11/09/17 10:52 AM

Yep, recip oil was indeed very thick and in MSP trying to start those P-2V 3350's when it was well below zero was very hard work on the starters and crews. I think we had about 70 gallon tanks per engine. Yes, sometimes we would shut down the engines with oil delution (gas)-we did not have enough hanger space or engine heaters. It was an approved Lockheed procedure -but some of our engine mechanics did not like the idea.

Flash forward to Northwest 747 with JT-9D engines. They carried 8 gallon tanks (very thin oil), and we could depart with just over 4 gallons. Never burned much oil at all.

Regards,

Dux -only use Mobil One oil for all my cars.


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Ralph Jones
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Re: Berlin Airlift Foundation C-97G Flies Today! [Re: Andrew Niemyer -KDLH]
      #444689 - 11/09/17 12:18 PM

Just read that FEMA is planning an airlift out of Puerto Rico...perhaps it could be put to use <g>.

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Ralph Jones
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Jeff Hartmann CIC
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Re: Berlin Airlift Foundation C-97G Flies Today! [Re: Ralph Jones]
      #444691 - 11/09/17 01:01 PM

>>>>Did my IR then and there, at Burnside-Ott<<<<

Me too , finished my Commercial, did multi in the almost brand new Twin Comanche, and instrument. 1967

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Ralph Jones
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Re: Berlin Airlift Foundation C-97G Flies Today! [Re: Jeff Hartmann CIC]
      #444692 - 11/09/17 01:11 PM

I did my MEL in Dayton where I was stationed at the time -- shortly before they yanked the Twin Comanche out of training service after a string of fatal Vmc demo's.

In retrospect, I think that turned out to be a training problem, not an airplane problem. My instructor was a Beech 18 guy, and it went smoothly.

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Jeff Hartmann CIC
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Re: Berlin Airlift Foundation C-97G Flies Today! [Re: Ralph Jones]
      #444693 - 11/09/17 01:16 PM

After I got my multi, they bumped the VMC up to 90 mph from 80.

I always say, if the Baron was ( were ) less expensive it would have the same reputation.

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Jeff

nothing clever to say right now...

Edited by Jeff Hartmann CIC (11/09/17 01:17 PM)


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