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Andrew Niemyer -KDLH
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Berlin Airlift Foundation C-97G Flies Today!
      #444616 - 11/07/17 09:13 PM

They finally got the Berlin Airlift Historical Foundation's C-97G out of Floyd Bennett today. Ready, this one is for you!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DXvVSBVUpg

Best,
Andy


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Ralph Jones
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Re: Berlin Airlift Foundation C-97G Flies Today! [Re: Andrew Niemyer -KDLH]
      #444618 - 11/07/17 10:16 PM

You gotta respect an airplane with 224 spark plugs...;-)

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Randy Sohn
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Re: Berlin Airlift Foundation C-97G Flies Today! [Re: Ralph Jones]
      #444620 - 11/07/17 11:05 PM

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with 224 spark plugs...;-)




Chuckle, made me recall once when we were doing an airshow down in Monterey, Mexico. Had the B-29 there and after one pass Carl and Gerald were flying on my wing with two Messerscmidts, Gerald was singing on the VHF while doing an Immelmann - "Here's to the B29, Randy and Vic say it's just fine, with 72 jugs and 144 plugs, and they're changin' them all of the time".

See'n that video of the 97 made me recall some interesting flights when we had them in the MSP Air Guard. Smooth running airplane, as you say 28 cylinder R-4360s, smooth running airplane (and 7790 gallons of fuel). I see that Tim's/BAHF airplane is 595, when I was at Offutt AFB Gen. LeMay's airplane was 593 and Gen. Griswold's was 596.

best, randy


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Richard Duxbury (Dux)
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Re: Berlin Airlift Foundation C-97G Flies Today! [Re: Randy Sohn]
      #444630 - 11/08/17 11:33 AM

Ya, Northwest flew that type aircraft with passengers for a few years (long before I joined).

I;ve got lot's of time with 3350s, but not the big 4360, Some 3350s would burn a lot of oil -wonder if that was also an issue with the 4360s ?

And yes, in the USN aircraft, we did indeed change a lot of spark plugs. Hmm, the plugs in my old Lexus are good for at least 80,000 miles.

Good pictures and story. Thanks avsig folks.

Regards,

Dux


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Ralph Jones
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Re: Berlin Airlift Foundation C-97G Flies Today! [Re: Richard Duxbury (Dux)]
      #444632 - 11/08/17 11:46 AM

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Some 3350s would burn a lot of oil -wonder if that was also an issue with the 4360s



I've seen figures of 2-3 gallons per hour for the 4360's, depending on engine hours.

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Tom Charlton
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Re: Berlin Airlift Foundation C-97G Flies Today! [Re: Ralph Jones]
      #444637 - 11/08/17 12:25 PM

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I've seen figures of 2-3 gallons per hour for the 4360's, depending on engine hours.


Hi Ralph,

I worked on KC-97Gs up at Pease AFB back in 1963/64. Tell ya what . . . get about a dozen of those cranked up at one time on a SAC alert and we probably didn’t have a mosquito problem for a while afterword. T’was an impressive amount of smoke.

I expect oil was brought in, not by the can, not by the barrel, but by tanker truck.

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Tom Charlton

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Tom Charlton
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Re: Berlin Airlift Foundation C-97G Flies Today! [Re: Andrew Niemyer -KDLH]
      #444638 - 11/08/17 12:34 PM

Quote:

They finally got the Berlin Airlift Historical Foundation's C-97G out of Floyd Bennett today.


Hi Andy,
Thanks for the point out.
Would love to see and hear a 97 flying again but . . . dam it’s gone’a be expensive. If anyone thought the B-29 was expensive to operate . . . wait till ya see the eye-watering cost to fly this thing. More power to em. Ha more money to em<g>.

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Tom Charlton

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Randy Sohn
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Re: Berlin Airlift Foundation C-97G Flies Today! [Re: Ralph Jones]
      #444643 - 11/08/17 01:02 PM

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I've seen figures of 2-3 gallons per hour for the 4360's, depending on engine hours.




Ralph, that'd be low (normal) consumption, we had 55 gallon oil tanks in the hell-hole below the C-97's cockpit for each engine and also a 80 gallon spare oil tank there. The F/E could transfer oil to any engine wilth an oil pump selector on his panel for that. Anyhow, 2-3 gph was considered as normal consumption for R-2800s out on on the line. Thinking back now to Bolivia, I remember running an R-2800 out of oil on the 5 hour flight from Buenos Aires to Santa Cruz, there on the DC-6s we had 35 gallon oil tanks for each engine.

best, randy

Edited by Randy Sohn (11/08/17 01:10 PM)


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Randy Sohn
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Re: Berlin Airlift Foundation C-97G Flies Today! [Re: Tom Charlton]
      #444644 - 11/08/17 01:08 PM

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it’s gone’a be expensive




Several years ago I went out to Tom's River to give Tim a 61.58 checkride in their C-54, told Tim the same thing as you say. I figure as a quick fuel ref 500 gph on the 97 and 400 gph on a 29.

best, randy


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Re: Berlin Airlift Foundation C-97G Flies Today! [Re: Richard Duxbury (Dux)]
      #444646 - 11/08/17 01:16 PM

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Ya, Northwest flew that type aircraft with passengers for a few years (long before I joined)




Yup, they sure did, NWA had lost one in Puget Sound (IIRC, #610) after T/O from Sea-Tac (the cowl flaps switch was backwards from the Connie) and one (IIRC) between Honolulu and Seattle, the Boeing 377 Stratocruiser fleet was disposed of in 1959.

best, randy

Edited by Randy Sohn (11/08/17 01:20 PM)


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