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Bill Bridges - 9S1
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One of the Last B747-200's
      #438107 - 04/24/17 01:13 PM

Kalitta retires on of it's B747-200 freighters.

Bill


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Randy Sohn
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Re: One of the Last B747-200's [Re: Bill Bridges - 9S1]
      #438109 - 04/24/17 01:34 PM

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B747-200 freighters




Chuckle, nostalgia!

best, randy


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Bill Bridges - 9S1
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Re: One of the Last B747-200's [Re: Randy Sohn]
      #438121 - 04/24/17 07:01 PM

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B747-200 freighters




Chuckle, nostalgia!

best, randy




I remember flying around the Pacific in Pan Am "100's". I think that makes me old. :))

Bill


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Randy Sohn
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Re: One of the Last B747-200's [Re: Bill Bridges - 9S1]
      #438123 - 04/24/17 07:28 PM

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remember flying around the Pacific in Pan Am "100's"




Bill, yup, flew some of the old 100 series whales, also flew some of the 100s that we referred to as "3 holers" since they only had 3 PX windows on the upper decks. IIRC, we kept those 100s with 400 seats on the "south of Tokyo trips" because of their performance? Dux?

But then, guess we also called the 72s "3 holers" with their 3 engines. Anyhow, chuckle, days gone by!

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Bruce Gorrell [EQY]
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Re: One of the Last B747-200's [Re: Bill Bridges - 9S1]
      #438126 - 04/24/17 09:10 PM

I wonder how many hours that airplane has.

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Randy Sohn
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Re: One of the Last B747-200's [Re: Bruce Gorrell [EQY]]
      #438130 - 04/24/17 09:27 PM

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I wonder how many hours that airplane has.




Good question, I sure dunno. Do recall ferrrying an ex-Sabena Airlines DC-10 from Brussells to Seattle for Boeing once, that one had 83,000 hours on it. Sold to Nippon Micro Bearing. On those planes, guess I'd also like to know the cycles on it, thinking now of how we used to fly a 12/15 hour 747 flight, then only log 1 cycle.

When we donated N-21728 to the Henry Ford Museum in Detroit that DC-3 had 85,000 hours on it, lotta time for a Diesel 3, a two-owner, Eastern and North Central. Interesting <g> deal, they hung it up there in the museum at Dearborn with a NWA paint-job, a DC-3 with Wright engines (NWA paid for the paint job).

best, randy


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Ralph Jones
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Re: One of the Last B747-200's [Re: Randy Sohn]
      #438132 - 04/24/17 11:21 PM

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When we donated N-21728 to the Henry Ford Museum in Detroit that DC-3 had 85,000 hours on it



Dunno if it was that one, but I remember reading about one that had some prodigious number of hours and an estimated 100,000 miles of taxiing <g>.

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Rick Durden
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Re: One of the Last B747-200's [Re: Ralph Jones]
      #438137 - 04/25/17 10:35 AM

Ralph,

When North Central donated the -3 to the Henry Ford, it was the highest time DC-3 in the world. Back when I was in law school I'd go to the museum - you had to look out the back windows at the -3, there was no room for it in the museum. On the typical gray Michigan day, it always looked pretty forlorn.

Once they redid the aviation portion of the museum (one of the very finest small collections in the world), the Northwest put up a bunch of money for the refurb - part of it was to bring the -3 indoors, hang it up as an entrance to the aviation section - and paint it in Northwest colors. The openings for the JATO units are still there, big as life, in the wingpits.

Some years ago I was lucky enough to get into the Fokker and Ford Trimotors that are on display. I was interested to discover that the aux fuel tank added to the Ford that Balchen flew over the South Pole was simply another wing tank set up in the fuselage. Made a lot of sense.

Warmest regards,
Rick


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Randy Sohn
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Re: One of the Last B747-200's [Re: Ralph Jones]
      #438139 - 04/25/17 11:39 AM

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prodigious number of hours and an estimated 100,000 miles of taxiing




Yeah, that was "old 728" (what we called it). Somewhere circa the middle sixties they converted it to a exec deal for Hal Carr. TV, tables, large seats, plush interior, etc. Radar (cripes, at 145 knots TAS the thunderstorms could danged near pass US. Then Charlotte (HNC's exec. secretary) decided to put JATO on it. Had to blow those bottles every two years or so, still recall once when Art and I had a teletype message waiting for us when we got back to MSP that we'd set the BRD airport on fire (grass aside the runway) when we'd test fired them upon departure. Can recall another time when I was sitting at my desk and Louie (MSP domicile's C/P) comes in and tells me that he'd had the Bd. of Dirs. on board coming back home from a funeral somewhere near OSH. Past EAU he'd had to feather an engine and he'd ended up having to run the other one at METO on that danged old thing to keep it in the air! That just shouldn't of happened, they always worked fine on one at "Climb Power". Just too heavy with all that extra weight and stuff! I remember calling Charlotte upstairs and telling that "that JATO was just like an 11 second f--t". Lotta stories about flying "that ole biddy" about when several of us in the front office had to take a load of whiz-bangs from the Mpls-St. Paul area up to or bring them back from HNC's lake home near BRD on Friday or Sunday afternoons. Also made me recall that they always parked it out on the ramp when not being used. Can recall telling Ms Charlotte once, ""For the cry'in out loud, put it somewhere out'a sight, when people drive past our hangars on 494 and they see it, they'll think that we still fly DC-3s"!

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Ralph Jones
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Re: One of the Last B747-200's [Re: Randy Sohn]
      #438140 - 04/25/17 11:43 AM

I remember seeing a Beech 18 in the Fifties that had a JATO installation...bet that could be interesting.

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