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Mase Taylor
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DC-6 Landing On Dirt Runway
      #431450 - 10/08/16 04:15 PM Attachment (103 downloads)

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Randy Sohn
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Re: DC-6 Landing On Dirt Runway [Re: Mase Taylor]
      #431451 - 10/08/16 04:37 PM

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Mase, remembering that we had only 3 hard surfaced strips in Bolivia (La Paz, Cochabama and Santa Cruz), all the others weren't.

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Ray Tackett
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DC-6 Landing On Dirt Runway [Re: Mase Taylor]
      #431454 - 10/08/16 05:41 PM

Looks as if he put the props in reverse then thought better of it when the
dust cloud enveloped the nose.

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Rod Madsen (RDU)
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Re: DC-6 Landing On Dirt Runway [Re: Ray Tackett]
      #431466 - 10/08/16 09:52 PM

That was my thought as well.

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Randy Sohn
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Re: DC-6 Landing On Dirt Runway [Re: Ray Tackett]
      #431487 - 10/09/16 10:54 PM

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props in reverse then thought better of it when the
dust cloud enveloped the nose.




Looking at that photo triggered some vivid memory recollections. Landed to the west with the 6 (CP-740) one day at Trinidad (prolly NOT the Trinidad that most on here are thinking of, this Trinidad is up in the Beni region of Bolivia, sod/clay/caliche sorta runway. Noted rain clouds approaching when we were on final. Landed and rollout reversing normal, and I kept the dust aft of the engines by limiting the revesre. Turned around and started taxiing back (terminal/refueling/associated stuff at the east end. Right after turning around to taxi back it started to rain and, after a short period I could feel the nosewheel steering getting slippery. By this time we were nearing the eastern end of the runway. I tried the brakes and they sorta acted like you'd suppose, greasy clay now wet. Now I go to reverse on all 4 engines, mud splatters all over the cockpit windows.Now I go to full reverse on one side and manage to ground loop that thing onto a raised brick surface on the south side if the runway, came to a halt near the refueling area's barrels and decided I need more Avgas anyhow before going on northwards to Guayharamarine and Ribrealta (AND questioning myself "Self, what'n the devil are you doing down here when you were only hired at NOR to fly as a DC-3 co-pilot to Spearfish, SD?).

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Ray Tackett
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DC-6 Landing On Dirt Runway [Re: Randy Sohn]
      #431491 - 10/09/16 11:36 PM

Thanks for the story! I can picture it easily via a link to my own
experience.

The red clay in Vietnam was very slick. On pierced steel planking (PSP), it
might as well have been ice with a film of water on it. It was barely
possible to walk on the stuff.

I watched a C-130 land on that surface. There was no apparent braking
action, so it was reverse all the way. The pilot kept it perfectly straight,
which saved the situation. The plane went through the mud flat at the end we
used for loading and unloading. It continue through the perimiter wire
toward an adjacent rice paddy. The nose wheels ended up on a dike between
two paddies which happened to line up with the runway.

After an interval to cool the engines, the tailgate opened to reveal the
loadmaster standing there with an intercom cord trailing. They taxied on
reverse thrust to the mud flat. We took a whole lot of stuff off. Then they
reverse taxied the entire length of the runway (no room to turn around) with
several more cooling pauses. I asked the loadmaster where they were going
next.

"Pleiku. Base laundry."

Note: That was the one and only C-130 landing on that runway. It had been
bulldozed out of the trees to be just adequate for C-7 Caribous. Some
chairborne danger in Saigon figured out that one C-130 could carry several
Caribou payloads at once. I hope the C-130 crew marched straight into that
fool's office when they got back.

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Terry Carraway
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Re: DC-6 Landing On Dirt Runway [Re: Randy Sohn]
      #431501 - 10/10/16 12:18 PM

I have been to that Trinidad. :)

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Randy Sohn
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Re: DC-6 Landing On Dirt Runway [Re: Terry Carraway]
      #431506 - 10/10/16 01:36 PM

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I have been to that Trinidad. :)




Yup, you're amongst the very few then. Open air cattle slaughter/beef packing sheds, we used to load raw beef onto our LAB freighters to haul it up to LaPaz for market. Also remember loading a C-47 there with "carne" in front and passengers in the aft end and seeing the blood run back under the floorboards when I let them off at San Borhja or some plaoe up there in the Beni. A head-shakin' mode here!

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Terry Carraway
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Re: DC-6 Landing On Dirt Runway [Re: Randy Sohn]
      #431542 - 10/11/16 10:44 AM

My mistake was when I went out to lunch, and did not try the pirahna. :)

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Randy Sohn
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Re: DC-6 Landing On Dirt Runway [Re: Terry Carraway]
      #431545 - 10/11/16 03:32 PM

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lunch, and did not try the pirahna. :)




Chuckle, oh what the h---, a litle chicha afterwards will solve any problem.

best, randy


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Terry Carraway
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Re: DC-6 Landing On Dirt Runway [Re: Randy Sohn]
      #431568 - 10/12/16 12:58 PM

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Quote:

lunch, and did not try the pirahna. :)




Chuckle, oh what the h---, a litle chicha afterwards will solve any problem.

best, randy




:D

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Randy Sohn
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Re: DC-6 Landing On Dirt Runway [Re: Terry Carraway]
      #431574 - 10/12/16 03:52 PM

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a litle chicha afterwards..... :D




Reminder to myself, heavy on that "little bit" of that stuff!

best, randy


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