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Ralph Jones
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Re: Cri Cri Twin - Need Multi Rating? [Re: Mase Taylor]
      #307950 - 01/03/11 06:55 PM

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Empty weight=185, MGTOW 230.




Useful load = 45? Is that pounds, kilograms or stone <g>?

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Re: Cri Cri Twin - Need Multi Rating? [Re: Evad Rellimhtug]
      #307959 - 01/03/11 07:35 PM

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Anyone know what you need to fly this thing (legally)?




Cajones the size of basketballs? <g>




I think it'd be difficult to fit into the cockpit.....

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Tom Tyson [SUW]
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Re: Cri Cri Twin - Need Multi Rating? [Re: Randy Sohn]
      #307971 - 01/03/11 08:03 PM

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... I don't fly the B-29 on a type rating, only a letter of authorization


Understood - My point was that (not too long ago) if one had four ... say ... R-985 engines gathering dust, and somehow managed to cobble together something that looked like a 1/2 scale B-29 (with a mere 70+' wingspan) and licensed it as an E-AB, the FAA would have let the builder fly it on just an SEL ticket.

But that only applied to the builder. But if it was flown by anyone else, they would need all the appropriate ratings.

- TT

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Randy Sohn
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Re: Cri Cri Twin - Need Multi Rating? [Re: Tom Tyson [SUW]]
      #308148 - 01/05/11 01:43 PM

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... I don't fly the B-29 on a type rating, only a letter of authorization


Understood - My point was that (not too long ago) if one had four ... say ... R-985 engines gathering dust, and somehow managed to cobble together something that looked like a 1/2 scale B-29 (with a mere 70+' wingspan) and licensed it as an E-AB, the FAA would have let the builder fly it on just an SEL ticket.

But that only applied to the builder. But if it was flown by anyone else, they would need all the appropriate ratings.

- TT




Ah-so, prolly concur - but beyond my ara of technical competence. I do far better on the subject of type ratings and like.

best, randy


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Denny Cunningham
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Re: Cri Cri Twin - Need Multi Rating? [Re: Mase Taylor]
      #308349 - 01/07/11 05:24 PM

Mase, in case you didn't see it, here's EAA's answer to somebody that asked a similar question:

"You are correct in that the Cri-Cri does not qualify as a Part 103 ultralight or a light-sport aircraft. While it does have two engines, there is a provision in FAR 61.31 that allows an experimental aircraft to be exempt from category and class requirements:

Type rating requirements, additional training, and authorization requirements.

(L) Exceptions.
(2) The rating limitations of this section do not apply to -
(B) An experimental certificate, unless the operation involves carrying a passenger

However, the FAA inspector or designated airworthiness representative (DAR) who conducts the airworthiness inspection and issues the airworthiness certificate may require the pilot have the appropriate category and class pilot certificate and ratings, and would then specify that requirement in the aircraft's Operating Limitations.

Bottom line: If the appropriate category and class requirement are listed in the Operating Limitations, you must have a minimum of a private pilot certificate, a third-class medical certificate, and a multi-engine rating to fly the Cri-Cri."


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Mase Taylor
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Re: Cri Cri Twin - Need Multi Rating? [Re: Stephanie Belser]
      #308362 - 01/07/11 08:37 PM

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Anyone know what you need to fly this thing (legally)?




Cajones the size of basketballs? <g>




I think it'd be difficult to fit into the cockpit.....





OOPS, a typo....Max takeoff weight = 430.

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