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Terry Carraway
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Question for Airline Pilots
      #445726 - 12/10/17 10:46 PM

Have you ever heard someone comment on their hours based on DUTY hours? Not flying hours?

Came across a guy in another forum who said he had 81,000 hours.

I questioned it, and he stated that was duty hours.

I just have never heard anyone even say something like that.

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sreyoB yrraL
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Re: Question for Airline Pilots [Re: Terry Carraway]
      #445731 - 12/10/17 11:00 PM

Nope. Wouldn't make any sense to do so.

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Richard Duxbury (Dux)
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Re: Question for Airline Pilots [Re: Terry Carraway]
      #445742 - 12/11/17 11:02 AM

Like Larry, I've never heard of a commercial pilot talking about "duty hours". Just flight hours, but that might include some long taxi time but in the cockpit.

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sreyoB yrraL
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Re: Question for Airline Pilots [Re: Richard Duxbury (Dux)]
      #445744 - 12/11/17 11:31 AM

Long taxi times are logged as part of "flight time" per the FAA's definition in 14 CFR 1.1. That is different from how the military logs flight time.

    Flight time means:

    (1) Pilot time that commences when an aircraft moves under its own power for the purpose of flight and ends when the aircraft comes to rest after landing;


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Ralph Jones
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Re: Question for Airline Pilots [Re: sreyoB yrraL]
      #445746 - 12/11/17 11:40 AM

I think that algorithm needs a clause to handle the case where you taxi out, a checklist item fails, and you shut down. You didn't come to rest after landing, so the clock would continue running...;-)

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sreyoB yrraL
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Re: Question for Airline Pilots [Re: Ralph Jones]
      #445747 - 12/11/17 11:53 AM

As long as you had the intention of flight the time counts. The "after landing" language is saying that you don't have to stop the clock every time the airplane comes to a stop during taxi.

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Dave Siciliano (ADS)
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Re: Question for Airline Pilots [Re: sreyoB yrraL]
      #445752 - 12/11/17 02:19 PM

Our Hobbs is on a squat switch, so, it doesn't start until weight off that and stops when weight is back on. We kept track for quite awhile of the time from beginning movement for flight and after touchdown to shut down and it came pretty close to 2 tenths extra for most normal flights. In training, we did a lot of touch downs with taxi back. That was very different than hobbs. If there's an extreme situation like being behind a B-29 doing their 15 to 20 minute run-up we'd adjust.

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Ralph Jones
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Re: Question for Airline Pilots [Re: Dave Siciliano (ADS)]
      #445755 - 12/11/17 02:47 PM

Quote:

a B-29 doing their 15 to 20 minute run-up we'd adjust.



Bet the ground controller loves that...;-)

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Ken Korshin KMIA
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Re: Question for Airline Pilots [Re: sreyoB yrraL]
      #445757 - 12/11/17 05:29 PM

I think the gentlemen has a "big number fixation."

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Randy Sohn
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Re: Question for Airline Pilots [Re: Ken Korshin KMIA]
      #445758 - 12/11/17 06:10 PM

Quote:

think the gentlemen has a "big number fixation."




Concur, I guess that I have no idea of how much time in my logbooks, quit after 4 or 5 of them, "more'n enuf" always seemed to work as an answer if they asked.

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