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Dave Siciliano (ADS)
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Record flight
      #444131 - 10/21/17 07:24 PM

Most passengers ever on a commercial airliner?

Edited by Dave Siciliano (ADS) (10/21/17 07:25 PM)


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Randy Sohn
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Re: Record flight [Re: Dave Siciliano (ADS)]
      #444133 - 10/21/17 07:44 PM

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Most passengers ever on a commercial airliner?




Mmmmmm, dunno for sure, meb'be was it that baby evac flight on that World Airways Diesel 10 at Saigon on that World Airways deal?

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Re: Record flight [Re: Randy Sohn]
      #444134 - 10/21/17 08:28 PM

747 by El Al 'cordin to Guinness.

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Re: Record flight [Re: Dave Siciliano (ADS)]
      #444136 - 10/21/17 09:23 PM


Guinness World Records › world-records
The greatest number of passengers ever carried by a commercial airliner is 1,088, by an El Al Boeing 747 during Operation Solomon, which involved the evacuation of Ethiopian Jews from Addis Ababa, Ethiopia, and started on 24 May 1991. This figure included two babies born on the flight.


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Re: Record flight [Re: Dave Siciliano (ADS)]
      #444138 - 10/21/17 10:07 PM

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1,088, by an El Al Boeing 747 during Operation Solomon




Yup, now that you talk about it, I do recall reading about it in the LAX paper when I was still flying those "whales" out in the Pacific. We did carry more than normal on the "south of Tokyo" aircraft since the Filipinos were smaller PX. But nothing like that El Al evac flight, IIRC only 421 peeps on ours.

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Re: Record flight [Re: Dave Siciliano (ADS)]
      #444139 - 10/21/17 10:08 PM

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This figure included two babies born on the flight.




I hope the cabin crew got a few days off...

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Dave Siciliano (ADS)
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Re: Record flight [Re: Ralph Jones]
      #444145 - 10/22/17 10:28 AM

That was in the Times crossword yesterday. Just thought some would find it interesting. That's sure a LOT of folks on a 47

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Richard Duxbury (Dux)
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Re: Record flight [Re: Dave Siciliano (ADS)]
      #444147 - 10/22/17 12:38 PM

Sigh, about 18 or so years ago, a large group of retired Northwest pilots, spouses, families, etc, were on an 18 day trip through China.

It started from LAX. I looked up the pilot attendees and found that we had over 100 Boeing 747 Captains. We were scheduled on a B-747. I call Guinness and asked if I could document that would it be a record number of B-747 Captains flying on a B-747? They thought it was worth a try.

Damn, the airline (China Air or China East?) -changed aircraft at the last days to a MD-11. Same thing returning.

Thus no record.

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Dux -I agree with Randy, I think the most passengers I've ever carried was about 420 flying South out of Narita. Circa 1993-96.


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Re: Record flight [Re: Richard Duxbury (Dux)]
      #444149 - 10/22/17 01:56 PM

Our C-130 was supposed to carry 110 pax, but with combat loading (sitting on the floor, hanging onto straps across the cargo compartment) I once had 149 Vietnamese refugees on board.

Of course, once the first one vomited, most of the rest decided it was a good idea, too.

Intercom: "Loadmaster's going on oxygen!"

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Re: Record flight [Re: Gil Buettner [KAUW]]
      #444160 - 10/23/17 04:24 PM

Last flight out of Da Nang. hadn't see this before.

https://youtu.be/pzcWZ7j1iTg


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Re: Record flight [Re: Dave Siciliano (ADS)]
      #444164 - 10/23/17 06:38 PM

Hell of a story. I don't know if I have the exact date... but I personally took the last U.S. Marines out of Danang.

On refugee trips, it got dicey, but nothing like that story.

I remember our loadmaster having to threaten refugees who wanted to bring their personal belongings on board... there was no room for luggage.

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Re: Record flight [Re: Gil Buettner [KAUW]]
      #444167 - 10/23/17 09:38 PM

I knew it was bad, but not that bad....Wow!

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Re: Record flight [Re: Jeff Hartmann CIC]
      #444169 - 10/23/17 10:18 PM

Happy B. Day Jeff!

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Bill Bridges - 9S1
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Re: Record flight [Re: Dave Siciliano (ADS)]
      #444171 - 10/23/17 10:56 PM

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Last flight out of Da Nang. hadn't see this before.

https://youtu.be/pzcWZ7j1iTg




The World B727 operated regular scheduled flights up and down the coast in RVN. I use to see them all the time along with an occasional Pan AM B707 freighter.

Those of us who supported the RVN up north saw nothing on that flight that surprised us or that we hadn't experienced. :))

Bill


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Re: Record flight [Re: Dave Siciliano (ADS)]
      #444178 - 10/24/17 09:08 AM

Dve S:

Well, it wasn't an airline, but my personal record was two monkeys (honest) and three people in a Cessna-172 one night. I filed for five souls on board. ATC asked about that, of course, and I explained. After that there was a pause and ATC asked, "Which monkey is flying the airplane?" I told him it was the woolly monkey. We could hear them laughing on their reply, but all they said was, "Cleared to..."

Admittedly, I lie a lot--but this story is true. I maintain it is a record for a C-172.

Ralph H

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Tom Charlton
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Re: Record flight [Re: Ralph Hood]
      #444181 - 10/24/17 10:10 AM

Quote:

"Which monkey is flying the airplane?"


Hi Ralph,

Big grin!

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Re: Record flight [Re: Dave Siciliano (ADS)]
      #444186 - 10/24/17 11:57 AM

I think I know that Ed Daily.

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Richard Duxbury (Dux)
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Re: Record flight [Re: Tom Charlton]
      #444194 - 10/24/17 02:50 PM

Well I remember (I was rescheduled in Narita) and was assigned to a B-747F flight to Tiawan. Load was 254 diary cows from Wisconsin. This was the last leg (ORD-ANC-Narita to a field in the Southwest of Tiawwan (I think the field -an ex military airport was called something like Koweshane?

All the cows were pregnant -6 to a crate, and all made it OK. Probably not a record since I think there were some other flights with cattle.

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Re: Record flight [Re: nehoC hctiM]
      #444195 - 10/24/17 03:20 PM

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I think I know that Ed Daily.




Yup, but I thought that he'd/World spelled it Daly?

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Re: Record flight [Re: Richard Duxbury (Dux)]
      #444200 - 10/24/17 07:18 PM

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Southwest of Tiawwan (I think the field -an ex military airport was called something like Koweshane?






Kaohsiung

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Re: Record flight [Re: Gil Buettner [KAUW]]
      #444201 - 10/24/17 07:45 PM

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ex military airport was called something like Koweshane?




Dux, remember that we used it for Hong Kong's Kai-Tek?

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Re: Record flight [Re: Randy Sohn]
      #444202 - 10/24/17 08:01 PM

Someone on another board said the flight from DaNang landed with two additional passengers (compared to departure).

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Re: Record flight [Re: Ralph Hood]
      #444203 - 10/24/17 08:03 PM

Quote:

Dve S:

Well, it wasn't an airline, but my personal record was two monkeys (honest) and three people in a Cessna-172 one night. I filed for five souls on board. ATC asked about that, of course, and I explained. After that there was a pause and ATC asked, "Which monkey is flying the airplane?" I told him it was the woolly monkey. We could hear them laughing on their reply, but all they said was, "Cleared to..."

Admittedly, I lie a lot--but this story is true. I maintain it is a record for a C-172.

Ralph H




A distinctive flight for sure. Toast!


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Re: Record flight [Re: Randy Sohn]
      #444205 - 10/24/17 11:56 PM

My Ed was a chief pilot at UAL.
He was also a NASA U2 pilot.

Wonder if it was the same guy?

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Re: Record flight [Re: nehoC hctiM]
      #444206 - 10/25/17 12:30 AM

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chief pilot at UAL......U2 pilot




Would guess not, owner or Pres. of World Airlines/Airways.

best, randy

Edited by Randy Sohn (10/25/17 12:32 AM)


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Re: Record flight [Re: Gil Buettner [KAUW]]
      #444211 - 10/25/17 12:38 PM Attachment (89 downloads)

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Hell of a story. I don't know if I have the exact date... but I personally took the last U.S. Marines out of Danang.

On refugee trips, it got dicey, but nothing like that story.

I remember our loadmaster having to threaten refugees who wanted to bring their personal belongings on board... there was no room for luggage.




I was with the Cav near the end of the war. Task Force Garry Owen was the last American ground force in RVN near Ben Hoa; the 101st still had a unit up north. We left just before them. Of course, I moved to other units like a perimeter command at Ben Hoa, then with the Air Cav of F Troop until I went home. Don't recall when the Marines left, but I remember hearing it. Of course, bib pomp and ceremony around those units leaving. Many folks just went on to other duties like I did or becoming Viet advisors.

That's me at the ceremony to retire the colors. Did that for the 2/5 and 1/7th Cav.

Sorry. I tried to re-size and couldn't get it to work. I'll have to try again later.

Edited by Dave Siciliano (ADS) (10/25/17 12:54 PM)


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