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Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]
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Vanity Fair Article/TSA
      #331547 - 12/23/11 10:32 AM

Here's a recent Vanity Fair article on aviation passenger security screening:

Smoke Screening

As you stand in endless lines this holiday season, here's a comforting
thought: all those security measures accomplish nothing, at enormous cost.
That's the conclusion of Charles C. Mann, who put the T.S.A. to the test with
the help of one of America's top security experts.

By Charles C. Mann



http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2011/12/tsa-insanity-201112


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Scott Dunham (DCA)
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Re: Vanity Fair Article/TSA [Re: Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]]
      #331560 - 12/23/11 11:34 AM

So true. My mental answer to the chirpy TSA "How are you today, sir?" is, "I'm out at the airport being treated like a criminal for the bazillionth time...so not great." I used to like flying - now it's just an undesirable job requirement.

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Geoff Sjostrom - Chicago
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Vanity Fair Article/TSA [Re: Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]]
      #331563 - 12/23/11 11:40 AM

>>(A)ll those security measures accomplish nothing. . .

Nothing, that is, except a perfect record of preventing hijackings or
destruction of aircraft flying from US airports for ten years, with a million
people a day boarding those aircraft.

Geoff Sjostrom


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Jim Tavenner
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Re: Vanity Fair Article/TSA [Re: Scott Dunham (DCA)]
      #331564 - 12/23/11 11:48 AM

I finally got to use a "Known Crew Member" checkpoint the other day - at last! Hopefully, the pointless checking of flight crews will end when this is implemented at ALL airports. Maybe I can start packing my Leatherman tool again! Useful for all kinds of jobs on the road... TSA super at DCA told me they expect to implement it there sometime in the first quarter. (He didn't say what year!)

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-Jim T.
FO, MIA, B-737

"Hours of boredom, punctuated by moments of stark terror."


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Ken Korshin KMIA
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Re: Vanity Fair Article/TSA [Re: Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]]
      #331568 - 12/23/11 12:09 PM

The House Majority Report is a scathing put down for the TSA.
Ineffective, wasteful and bloated with bureaucrats.

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Best,

Ken


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Scott Dyer [HPN/NY]
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Vanity Fair Article/TSA [Re: Geoff Sjostrom - Chicago]
      #331570 - 12/23/11 12:15 PM

Geoff -- I haven't been shot by a robber on the streets of Manhattan yet,
either, so I should thank the TSA?


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Scott Dunham (DCA)
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Re: Vanity Fair Article/TSA [Re: Geoff Sjostrom - Chicago]
      #331572 - 12/23/11 12:36 PM

I believe the point of the article was that there is actually no supporting evidence for that assertion - but we've sure spent a phenomenal amount of time, effort, and money hoping that there was some connection between the two things.

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Ward Miller POU-NY
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Vanity Fair Article/TSA [Re: Geoff Sjostrom - Chicago]
      #331576 - 12/23/11 12:55 PM

>> ...a perfect record of preventing hijackings... <<

Geoff, I can't recall of one incident where a TSA agent has declared, "We
gottcha" as he collared a would be hijacker during his boarding check. Not
one.

The fact they have not caught one hijacker proves nothing. Maybe hijacking
has just fallen out of vogue. Maybe their inspection is so poor, hijackers
routinely escape detection and they, in turn, are so inept they can't do the
jacking.


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Terry Carraway
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Re: Vanity Fair Article/TSA [Re: Ken Korshin KMIA]
      #331591 - 12/23/11 02:56 PM

And the House is effective? Prudent? And not bloated with bureaucrats?

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Terry Carraway
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Re: Vanity Fair Article/TSA [Re: Scott Dunham (DCA)]
      #331592 - 12/23/11 02:56 PM

But remember the true reason for TSA. It was to make the average Joe feel safe enought o actually buy a ticket and board an airplane.

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Terry
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