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Jim Tavenner
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Re: TSA hits a new low. [Re: James Knutson (SGS)]
      #148370 - 03/24/07 09:37 PM

No, they don't. But if that connecting flight is the commute home for your flight crew, they do.

I have no idea why this makes sense, or who it makes sense to.

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-Jim T.
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Mase Taylor
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Re: TSA hits a new low. [Re: James Knutson (SGS)]
      #148395 - 03/25/07 12:07 AM

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Arrival gate was right next to departure gate, 31 and 32 of ? concourse. Simple change, waiting time only about 30 minutes between arrival and push back. Under same scenario now days, do the arriving passengers have to go to the main ticketing area and go thru security again to change flights?




No. You only go thru screening if you leave one sterile area and enter another.

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Richard Palm (PAO)
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Re: TSA hits a new low. [Re: Jim Tavenner]
      #148452 - 03/25/07 12:26 PM

Perhaps they should rename it TSS, for Transportation Security System. Then, when their duties are expanded to include non-transportation security, they can just change it to SS...

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Jim Tavenner
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Re: TSA hits a new low. [Re: Richard Palm (PAO)]
      #148544 - 03/25/07 11:08 PM

Doesn't work. The old SS were reasonably competent at their jobs.

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-Jim T.
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Sue A. Critz (KELP)
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Re: TSA hits a new low. [Re: Jim Tavenner]
      #148680 - 03/27/07 11:04 AM

>>This agency is getting out of control.<<

Jim-

Now, I took you for more intelligent than that! You're just discovering this???

It's not just the TSA, it's the whole DHS.

I would never, for instance, have thought this would occur in America, and although I'd heard stories before I'd not gotten one from someone I personally know. But someone I know who does an import business had this experience: His business ships batteries overseas, which are installed in a piece of equipment that is then shipped back to the US. Shipping the batteries requires an import/export form that is 18 pages long.

No problem - he does the required form.

However, to keep the batteries fresh, they're shipped along with dessicant packages. Turns out the dessicant packages ALSO require that 18-page-long import/export form, and when this is brought to his attention he makes the comment that "What? Are terrorists going to bomb New York with dessicant packages?"

He is then told by Customs, whose form this is, that he "will cooperate, or we will make your life miserable," along with other, more sinister threats (like disappearing without benefit of a lawyer).

My advice to every US citizen is: WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE! Start reading the proposed legislation, and start writing to your Congresscritters. Start taking the country back! Turn it back into a government of the people, by the people, and for the people by getting more actively involved.

I'm currently reading H.R. 1, which proposes further implementation of the 9-11 Commission recommendations. Although some of the points are good (like screening airline cargo), others are hopelessly flawed or ridiculously expensive proposals that can be more easily and effectively done by other mechanisms than those proposed. This has passed the House, and is awaiting passage in the Senate, so I'll be buzzing in my senators' ears before it comes to a vote.

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Sue A. Critz (KELP)
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Re: TSA hits a new low. [Re: Ralph Jones]
      #148681 - 03/27/07 11:09 AM

ROF,LMAO!

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Sue A. Critz (KELP)
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Re: TSA hits a new low. [Re: John Tucci (LDJ)]
      #148682 - 03/27/07 11:11 AM

They're badge-carrying enforcement officers, but I don't know what form their enforcement takes.

We're not talking about baggage screeners here.

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Stephanie Belser
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Re: TSA hits a new low. [Re: Jim Tavenner]
      #148684 - 03/27/07 11:14 AM

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Doesn't work. The old SS were reasonably competent at their jobs.




We already have the USSS. I've heard those guys get rather huffy when they are referred to as the "SS". <g>

Stephanie


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Sue A. Critz (KELP)
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Re: TSA hits a new low. [Re: Jim Tavenner]
      #148685 - 03/27/07 11:20 AM

Jim-

I'd heard that "TSA" stood for "Terminally Stupid Agency," and mentionned that to my FAA POI when I went to be approved as an Alien Flight Training Provider. (I subsequently went to Roswell and now possess a Flying Saucer Permit, so the process is complete!) Four other FAA inspectors present started a chorus of "Hear! Hear!"

Seems the TSA is loved by all!

I had an inspection recently, and was asked to show "the reciepts for the money you collect for the TSA." My reply: "I don't collect any money for the TSA, and neither does any other AFTP. The fee the candidate pays to the TSA is done via credit card on the TSA's website."

Jon Stewart recently made comment about another group, wherein he described them as "not being able to find their a$$es, even with a special a$$ map." For some reason I'm reminded of this.

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Jim Tavenner
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Re: TSA hits a new low. [Re: Sue A. Critz (KELP)]
      #148688 - 03/27/07 12:11 PM

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Jim-

I'd heard that "TSA" stood for "Terminally Stupid Agency,"




TSA =

Thousands Standing Around
Those Stupid A**holes
Trained to Smell Alcohol
Take your Shoes off, A**hole
Trying to Shutdown the Airlines
Thieves Stealing Anything
Token Security Administration
Terrorists Smiling At this
Terribly Slow Admission
TNT Smuggled Aboard
Takes Stuff Away

Any others?

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-Jim T.
FO, MIA, B-737

"Hours of boredom, punctuated by moments of stark terror."

Edited by Jim Tavenner (03/27/07 12:14 PM)


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